[DeTomaso] supercharger question

[boyd casey]

The last time I drove a turbo with a lag was a porsche  930 in 1985. Iwas a
very scary car. The worst thing was due to the rear engine wand the weird
way 911's handle when you down shifted into a turn the turbo would kick in
and if you were not used to it or ready for it you would do a 360 faster
then you could say OH Shit!. So my turb expierience is dated.
Boyd

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Kirby Schrader
<kirby.schrader at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Will, you need to reign in your tendency to exaggerate! :-)
> It only has 430HP at the rear wheels.
>
> You only have too much HP when you can't keep it on the road with your
> foot on the floor.
>
> :-)
>
>
> On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:46 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
>
> > If you need to experience some extra ponies, I could let you drive
> > my car
> > for a while.  ;-)
> >
> > Better yet, I could let you drive the Insight for a while.  After
> > that,
> > you'd be happy on your lawn mower.
> >
> > Geezz...  Give the guy a GT40 with 800HP, and suddenly nothing has
> > enough
> > HP.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > ] On
> > Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:28 PM
> > To: Will Kooiman
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
> >
> >
> > OK, Will... I disagree!
> >
> > My Lightning could ALWAYS use more HP. Except when I'm pulling a 24'
> > trailer through the rain uphill...
> > :-)
> >
> > At 122,000 miles, I think I need to experience some extra ponies.
> > You wouldn't believe what some guys are getting out of a 'stock' 5.4
> > Lightning....
> >
> >
> > On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:19 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
> >
> >> Yes - a big can of worms.
> >>
> >> I've posted before that I had a 93 Mustang Cobra.  It had a warmed
> >> over 5.0.
> >> Nothing fancy, but plenty fast enough for getting around on the
> >> street.
> >>
> >> After I had it for several years, I finally decided that it would be
> >> fun to
> >> try a Vortech.  I got the kit designed for about 9lbs of boost.  I
> >> forget
> >> the model #.  With the Vortech, it was like driving on ice.  The
> >> tires spun
> >> easily.  Gas mileage did not go down.  It did not have an
> >> intercooler/aftercooler.
> >>
> >> Another data point:  My brother has a 2003 Cobra.  It has a 4.6 dohc
> >> with
> >> the factory Eaton.  He has done minor mods, mostly just a smaller
> >> pulley and
> >> a custom tune.  He makes about 430hp to the rear wheels - from
> >> 231".  That's
> >> impressive.  It has an air-water cooler under the blower.  Some of
> >> the 03
> >> Cobra guys are getting over 500hp, and probably even 600hp to the
> >> rear
> >> wheels with fairly simple mods (ported stock blower or upgrade to a
> >> Kenne
> >> Bell)
> >>
> >> My opinion - any blower will make more HP than you will use.  A twin
> >> screw
> >> would be easier to mount.  A centrifugal is a challenge.  A big GMC/
> >> BDS
> >> would be interesting if you could make it fit.  But... turbos would
> >> probably
> >> be even easier to mount, plus they'd make more hp.  If you're going
> >> to be a
> >> bear...
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> >> ] On
> >> Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:09 PM
> >> To: boyd casey
> >> Cc: De Tomaso List
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh my, Boyd! You've opened ANOTHER can of worms!
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Just kidding.
> >>
> >> What little I know...
> >>
> >> The Eaton rotor type works well with a nice performance increase, but
> >> it adds heat as you go for more boost.
> >> After all, there are a ton of them out there. I have one on my
> >> Lightning.
> >>
> >> Most everyone going for the ultimate HP gets rid of the Eaton.
> >>
> >> I now bow to 'those who know'.
> >>
> >> Kirby
> >>
> >> On 13 Aug 2009, at 8:52 PM, boyd casey wrote:
> >>
> >>> Aside from the obvious issues ofhood clearence and rear visability
> >>> whic is
> >>> the best type of super harger for a cleveland or windsor engine  , a
> >>> Paxton
> >>> Turbine type , or a top mounted with rotors. If someone can
> >>> reccomend a
> >>> spscefic brand and the specs ( model #) or size relative to
> >>> displacement.
> >>>
> >>> Boyd
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