[DeTomaso] Road America Video

[Patrick Hals]

Hi Kjetil, Hi all,
You think Dennis is holding back in the turns ?
Well, I don't share your opinion, look at the video around second 58 or so, Dennis is almost out, oversteering , and it's a fast curve. I think he is flat out wherever he can, while respecting his car at all time.What does Mad dog think ? Dawg ? 
None of the drivers are respecting the apex very properly, and the Ferrari driver likes to jump on the "vibreurs" in then turns ( How do you say "vibreur"... ? ) not the cleanest drive.... On the contrary, Dennis respects the turns and drives very cleanly, which is good. Indeed, with a Pantera vs. a "modern car ", hitting the vibreurs aggressively ( especially some of those, which are very nasty ) damages your a arms , tyres, shocks, steering and bushings, and will not give you a better lap time.
I've been practicing against 360s very often in Spa, and while they are much slower than Candy or Andy in the straights, they are way better in braking. It is very disappointing and frustrating. But may be Guy or Greg Trigaux have another opinion ( Guy, wake up please :>))
I still wonder what happens to the Pantera at the end, when the Ferrari passes it.... It seems that the Pantera is stopped in the traffic.... while it should be back in the straights thereafter.
Good w e to all.
Pat


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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:53:45 +0200
From: Kjetil Finne <kjetfinn at online.no>
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Is the cornering capabilities really that different between Dennis 
Pantera, and the 360 challenge?
I do not think so. To me it seems like Dennis is holding back in the 
turns. There is no signs that he is driving even close to the limits
On the contrary the Ferrari driver is right on the edge several times, 
before he looses it in the end of the video.
Same thing with braking, it seems like Dennis likes to play it safe, 
while the Ferrari driver catches up with him no matter the distance on 
the straights.

Kjetil



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>> Is this Quella's car running in front of the 360 Ferrari? What class are 
>> they running in? Check out the old 50's something heap at 7:58. The front 
>> wheel is off the ground around the turn.
>> The Pantera pulls away on the straights but the F-car catches up in the 
>> turns (no surprise).
>> Will
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