[DeTomaso] Techno question:Clutch&Slave II

adin at frontier.net adin at frontier.net
Thu Oct 18 22:01:31 EDT 2007


Good point, but I'm locked in now.

(and hope he meant it wouldn't go in, not was grinding - he didn't say  
grinding, did he?)


David, from the land of the Rockies?


Quoting Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>:

> David,
>
> I guess it would matter if by not going in he means it grinds (I am correct)
> or it does not find the gear at all (the rest of the forum is right).
>
> What say ye Chuck?
>
> Larry (go tribe) - Cleveland
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of adin at frontier.net
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:06 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question:Clutch&Slave II
>
> I'm in the Gray Forrest camp - it also shifts, does it not, r/1/2/3 when
> hot?
>
> In my little world, all gears points to clutch whereas some gears
> indicates a linkage issue.
>
> That's my final answer and I'm locking it in!
>
> David in Durango
>
>
>
> Quoting Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>:
>
>> Gray and Forrest,
>>
>> But, and like my Ante Bertha it's a big Butt.
>>
>> 1. Chuck still has only 20 thousands clearance at the clutch/flywheel.
>>
>> 2. It shifts fine when cold.
>>
>> Hmmmmm?
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
>> Behalf Of Gray Gregory
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:37 PM
>> To: SOBill at aol.com; cengles at cox.net
>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question:Clutch&Slave II
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> I'm inclined to agree with Forrest. If you're able to get some gears and
>> not others that tells me you are getting clutch disengagement
>> (especially since reverse is one of those gears) so the problem is more
>> likely in the shift linkage. My guess is they failed to get the shift
>> rod back in the same place on the ZF it was prior to removal.
>>
>> Gray
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>> On Behalf Of SOBill at aol.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:55 AM
>> To: cengles at cox.net
>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question:Clutch&Slave II
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Is the release arm in the right place?
>>
>> Here's how to tell. Remove the lever return spring. Move the  release
>> arm
>> until you fell the throwout bearing come to stop against  the pressure
>> plate
>> release fingers. The release arm should be forward  of straight up so
>> that it will
>> go thru straight up when the clutch is being  released. If the release
>> arm is
>> not forward of straight up, mark the release arm  and the shaft with a
>> position reference line, remove the arm from the  shaft, rotate the arm
>> one spline
>> forward, and reinstall the arm. The  purpose of this positioning of the
>> release
>> arm is to ensure that the slave  cylinder movement moves the release arm
>> thru
>> the maximum distance when the  clutch pedal is pressed.
>>
>> Next set the freeplay between the throwout bearing and the  clutch
>> release
>> fingers and set the stop bolt.
>>
>> Next adjust the rod into the slave cylinder.
>>
>> Then rehook the spring.
>>
>> Depending on which ZF you have, they require different clutch  friction
>> discs
>> because they have different input shafts.
>>
>> The -1 ZFs have a 1 1/8 inch diameter shaft with 10  splines.
>>
>> The -2 ZFs have a 1 1/16 inch diameter shaft with 10  splines.
>>
>> These shaft and spline differences are small, but could become
>> important
>> when things are cold or hot.
>>
>> In addition, the clutch friction discs should have the Marcel  springs
>> (those
>> wavy things) between the friction pads and the center metal disc  of the
>>
>> friction plate removed. This makes the clutch disc thinner and is what
>> DeTomaso
>> did at the factory. Depending on what type of pressure plate you have,
>> you may
>> be able to visually verify the status of the Marcels.
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> SOBill  Taylor
>> sobill at aol.com
>>
>>
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