[DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers Beware!

[Larry - Ohio Time Corp.]

<<P.S. JB is a sworn ...>>

Sworn or sworn at?

Larry (not by me) - Cleveland


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: "John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com>; "Chris Difani" 
<cdifani at pacbell.net>; "panteras" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers Beware!


> P.S. JB is a sworn officer of the law
>
> "John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com> wrote:
>
> " They seem to be designed to
> catch those people who entered the intersection legally, and then got
> "caught" by slow traffic in front of them, or some other problem."
>
> There is the catch. It really isn't even possible to get "caught" by
> slower traffic in front of you. You are obligated not to enter an
> intersection unless it is clear. This is what causes grid-lock. People
> enter the intersection not knowing they can clear, they get stuck
> blocking cross traffic, then it gets out of hand. It happens all too
> often around here.....
>
> The bottom-line is no matter what it is made of, or what its claim, its
> not legal to cover the numbers/letters on a license plate in the
> people's republic of Kalifonia. Period.
>
> JB
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On Behalf Of Chris Difani
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:57 PM
> To: 'panteras'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers Beware!
>
> Guys:
>
> First of all, I never, ever want anyone to run a red light. Being in the
>
> public safety line of work for 30 years has vividly shown the folly of
> that
> idea.
>
> However, at the same time, the fact that an automated device takes
> indiscriminate photographs, and then is used to garner revenue for a
> municipality without regard for the law (many of the California photo
> tickets have been thrown out of court), or for the legality of the
> recorded
> actions, is also "folly".
>
> The cover that I told the list about is a clear plastic FRESNEL lens.
> Not a
> shiny plastic, shiny bits in plastic, or shiny spray
> system/device/whatever.
> It's clear. Anything under it is clearly visible. It does not obscure
> the
> plate. All it does, thru the magic of optics, is to focus bright light,
> like
> from a photo flash device, into a small area... which generates the
> appearance of a bright spot.
>
> In California, the vast majority of red light photo tickets are issued
> when
> the car is in the intersection, when the light has gone from green to
> yellow, or yellow to red. Most of the photo devices aren't even set up
> to
> capture vehicles that run a fully red light. They seem to be designed to
>
> catch those people who entered the intersection legally, and then got
> "caught" by slow traffic in front of them, or some other problem.
>
> In any case, the entire thrust of the currect protest is that a citation
> is
> required to be issued by a law enforcement officer. Not a mechanical
> device.
> The transgression has to be witnessed at the time it occurs. That's been
> the
> issue that the courts have been concerned with.... and so far, haven't
> resolved to everyone's satisfaction.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Difani
> '73 L #5829 "LITNNG"
> Sacramento, CA
> Email: cdifani at pacbell.net
>
>
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