[DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers Beware!

[John Bentley (jab)]

I'm just tryin to keep people from getting stopped.  The reality is if a
cop wants to stop you, its usually not too difficult to find a reason
(although it does happen where you just can't find something and just
have to let it go).  I just don't see the point in giving away a good
reason to stop.  When you look at license plates all day, its pretty
easy to see if one is altered in any way.  If you have any cover over
your rear license plate, its an automatic free pass to pull you over.
Doesn't seem like something I would want to do......that's all.  To
each, his own.
 
JB
 
 

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From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:22 PM
To: John Bentley (jab); Chris Difani; panteras
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers Beware!


P.S. JB is a sworn officer of the law

"John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com> wrote: 



	" They seem to be designed to 
	catch those people who entered the intersection legally, and
then got 
	"caught" by slow traffic in front of them, or some other
problem."
	
	There is the catch. It really isn't even possible to get
"caught" by
	slower traffic in front of you. You are obligated not to enter
an
	intersection unless it is clear. This is what causes grid-lock.
People
	enter the intersection not knowing they can clear, they get
stuck
	blocking cross traffic, then it gets out of hand. It happens all
too
	often around here.....
	
	The bottom-line is no matter what it is made of, or what its
claim, its
	not legal to cover the numbers/letters on a license plate in the
	people's republic of Kalifonia. Period.
	
	JB
	
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
	On Behalf Of Chris Difani
	Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:57 PM
	To: 'panteras'
	Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] StopLight Camera License Plate Diffusers
Beware!
	
	Guys:
	
	First of all, I never, ever want anyone to run a red light.
Being in the
	
	public safety line of work for 30 years has vividly shown the
folly of
	that 
	idea.
	
	However, at the same time, the fact that an automated device
takes 
	indiscriminate photographs, and then is used to garner revenue
for a 
	municipality without regard for the law (many of the California
photo 
	tickets have been thrown out of court), or for the legality of
the
	recorded 
	actions, is also "folly".
	
	The cover that I told the list about is a clear plastic FRESNEL
lens.
	Not a 
	shiny plastic, shiny bits in plastic, or shiny spray
	system/device/whatever. 
	It's clear. Anything under it is clearly visible. It does not
obscure
	the 
	plate. All it does, thru the magic of optics, is to focus bright
light,
	like 
	from a photo flash device, into a small area... which generates
the 
	appearance of a bright spot.
	
	In California, the vast majority of red light photo tickets are
issued
	when 
	the car is in the intersection, when the light has gone from
green to 
	yellow, or yellow to red. Most of the photo devices aren't even
set up
	to 
	capture vehicles that run a fully red light. They seem to be
designed to
	
	catch those people who entered the intersection legally, and
then got 
	"caught" by slow traffic in front of them, or some other
problem.
	
	In any case, the entire thrust of the currect protest is that a
citation
	is 
	required to be issued by a law enforcement officer. Not a
mechanical
	device. 
	The transgression has to be witnessed at the time it occurs.
That's been
	the 
	issue that the courts have been concerned with.... and so far,
haven't 
	resolved to everyone's satisfaction.
	
	Chris
	
	Chris Difani
	'73 L #5829 "LITNNG"
	Sacramento, CA
	Email: cdifani at pacbell.net
	
	
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