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Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.
by marshall smith 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Hey Terry... Congrats to you on your Fun Rally to Jupiter!! One second after a five year trip? You should run the Silver State with a dial-in like that!! Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/5/16, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. To: "Larry Stock" <larrys(a)panteraparts.com>, "Owen Cooke" <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 8:22 AM Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry Stock <[3]larrys(a)panteraparts.com> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com>, "[5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[7]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [8]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [9]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [12]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [13]detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[14]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" <[16]mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <[17]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[18]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[20]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[21]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [22]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com From: [23]mycars(a)comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [24]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [25]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[26]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> To: Mike Thomas <[27]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' <[28]mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <[29]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[30]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<[31]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<[33]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<[34]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[35]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[36]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[37]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [38]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com From: [39]mycars(a)comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [40]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [41]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] More fun in France
by ehpantera 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Ditto on that. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> Date: 7/6/16 2:02 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More fun in France After loosing a wheel bearing in my 71 Caddy, in the desert out west, some 40 years ago, I always feel the wheel centers when I stop. Should you find a Hot one you are going to have a problem soon. Larry (checks trailer hubs too) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 5:02 PM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] More fun in France Our day was interrupted by what the English refer to as a 'failure to proceed' brought on by front wheel bearings with almost no grease whatsoever. After a couple of hours of parking lot troubleshooting the car was towed to a local garage in a small town. The garage owner was Good People as evidenced by the two totally trick and immaculate Mk 1 VWs he had (a Golf Gti and a pickup truck). The front bearing had literally liquified and melted to the spindle. After hours of grinding and pressing and cutting and chiseling, the remnants of the bearing were out. An hour and a half round trip to get some new bearings and then reassembly was straightforward. We got to the hotel just in time for delicious dinner but sadly missed all the day's activities (relaxed floating down the river in two-man boats and a terrific buffet lunch) Weather is perfect, life couldn't be better.... _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Ditto on that. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> Date: 7/6/16 2:02 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More fun in France After loosing a wheel bearing in my 71 Caddy, in the desert out west, some 40 years ago, I always feel the wheel centers when I stop. Should you find a Hot one you are going to have a problem soon. Larry (checks trailer hubs too) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 5:02 PM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] More fun in France Our day was interrupted by what the English refer to as a 'failure to proceed' brought on by front wheel bearings with almost no grease whatsoever. After a couple of hours of parking lot troubleshooting the car was towed to a local garage in a small town. The garage owner was Good People as evidenced by the two totally trick and immaculate Mk 1 VWs he had (a Golf Gti and a pickup truck). The front bearing had literally liquified and melted to the spindle. After hours of grinding and pressing and cutting and chiseling, the remnants of the bearing were out. An hour and a half round trip to get some new bearings and then reassembly was straightforward. We got to the hotel just in time for delicious dinner but sadly missed all the day's activities (relaxed floating down the river in two-man boats and a terrific buffet lunch) Weather is perfect, life couldn't be better.... _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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More fun in France
by Mike Drew 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Our day was interrupted by what the English refer to as a 'failure to proceed' brought on by front wheel bearings with almost no grease whatsoever. After a couple of hours of parking lot troubleshooting the car was towed to a local garage in a small town. The garage owner was Good People as evidenced by the two totally trick and immaculate Mk 1 VWs he had (a Golf Gti and a pickup truck). The front bearing had literally liquified and melted to the spindle. After hours of grinding and pressing and cutting and chiseling, the remnants of the bearing were out. An hour and a half round trip to get some new bearings and then reassembly was straightforward. We got to the hotel just in time for delicious dinner but sadly missed all the day's activities (relaxed floating down the river in two-man boats and a terrific buffet lunch) Weather is perfect, life couldn't be better.... Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
by marshall smith 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Hey Owen You have received plenty of great advice on this issue. I just wanted to add a couple things: ~~Imho....not cut the hood. I have never seen a Pantera that WOULD cool itself with the hood open but NOT with the hood closed. ~~Also, an upgrade to modern day fans is a must. That technology just wasn't available in the early seventies. ~~Which ever fans you use, have a dedicated power source for those fans with healthy size wiring. Compare your fan power as wired now with the same fans but with a large wire directly from the battery. You might notice a sizable increase in blade speed ~~And lastly, NEVER use the auxiliary fan switch on the console. Wire both fans to operate with temperature switches. A manual switch for your radiator fan is as silly as using a manual switch for your oil pump. Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/5/16, Owen Cooke <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 7:13 AM Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) > 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) > 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) > 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) > 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) > 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) > 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) > 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join > (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this > time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora > could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish > my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this > time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora > could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish > my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > >

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The parking lot...
by Mike Drew 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Euro GTS, GT5, GT5-S, Pantera L, Longchamp and an Intermechanicca Indra behind... Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
by cengles＠cox.net 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

Dear Owen, IMHO, do not cut the hood. Try some simple things first. Consider a new thermostat, but take precautions that you buy a correct Cleveland rather than the more common Windsor. It is possible the old radiator may be to blame. If there are good radiator shops nearby, then you could pull the radiator and have them tank it and clean it up and pressure test it. That may be all it needs. If the overheating persists, then new fans might be helpful. The other option would be to buy a new radiator and fans from one of the vendors. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Owen Cooke wrote: > Guys i need advice please > > > I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera > > i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland > and its never very hot here > > rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood > i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over > the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful > > i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and > fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts > this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright > > does this plan make sense > i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight > boiling over in the swirl tank once > also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about > 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only > veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold > any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? > i would appreciate advice > > best regards owen cooke > > On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: >> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to >> detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." >> >> >> Daily Detomaso List Digest >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) >> 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) >> 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) >> 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) >> 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) >> 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) >> 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) >> 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) >> 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join >> (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 >> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> >> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" >> <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" >> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said >> that >> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm >> this >> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling >> Pandora >> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Christopher Kimball >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM >> To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America >> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> Congrats! >> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can >> finish >> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... >> Sincerely, >> Chris >> >>> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> >>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >>> 2 >>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >>> >>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >>> be >>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed >>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 >> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> >> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' >> <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' >> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more >> frequently... >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ________________________________ >> From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> >> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM >> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; >> 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of >> America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said >> that >> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm >> this >> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling >> Pandora >> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Christopher Kimball >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM >> To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America >> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> Congrats! >> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can >> finish >> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... >> Sincerely, >> Chris >> >>> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> >>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >>> 2 >>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >>> >>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >>> be >>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed >>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> >> >>

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Fun Rally Winner best stock
by James coyne 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

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Re: [DeTomaso] Proper placement of Zeus Fasteners
by gonancy＠juno.com 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

Dzus fasteners, they're spelled Dzus fasteners. The Spell Nazi still vigilant Please note: message attached From: James coyne <tecnosound(a)hotmail.com> To: John Bennett <jbennett111(a)zoho.com>, detomaso <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Proper placement of Zeus Fasteners Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:10:50 -0700 ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 John , I have a 1971 , 1972 and 1985 . I did a quick check and determined that the 1985 GT5-s is spaced differently than the 1972 pre L . I can supply The specs you need for your 74 if someone can verify that they are the same as the 71 or 72 . - Jim Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:31:12 -0700 From: jbennett111(a)zoho.com To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Proper placement of Zeus Fasteners Let me start over. Apologies Would anyone happen to know the proper placement, spacing, and dimensions of the Zeus Fastener holes for the rear removable boot (trunk)? Someone welded and bogged mine over in order to paint the engine bay. Is there a difference between the model years?I could use the removable bit as a template but I am missing that as well.Kind regards,JohnSent using Zoho Mail _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. John , I have a 1971 , 1972 and 1985 . I did a quick check and determined that the 1985 GT5-s is spaced differently than the 1972 pre L . I can supply The specs you need for your 74 if someone can verify that they are the same as the 71 or 72 . - Jim Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:31:12 -0700 From: jbennett111(a)zoho.com To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Proper placement of Zeus Fasteners Let me start over. Apologies Would anyone happen to know the proper placement, spacing, and dimensions of the Zeus Fastener holes for the rear remov able boot (trunk)? Someone welded and bogged mine over in order to paint the eng ine bay. Is there a difference between the model years?I could use the removable bit as a template but I am missing that as well.Kind regards,JohnSent using Zoh o Mail _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
by Bill Moore 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

Hi Owen:What has changed, thermostat ?Make sure it is a Cleveland specific unit. Is there air in the system ? Jack up the back end of the car and bleed the cooling system. Use a 50/50 premix antifreeze. Don't pull Tha radiator unless that is a last resort, and hood vents should never be required. Cheers, Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary -------- Original message -------- From: Stephen <steve(a)snclocks.com> Date: 2016-07-05 9:13 AM (GMT-07:00) To: 'Owen Cooke' <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 Good morning Owen. Honestly - vents in the hood are a lot of work and, in my opinion, not worth the effort. You don't mention if your engine has been upgraded, but, for reference, I am running a fairly powerful 351 (480 hp) and using a radiator supplied by Pantera Performance. I believe they use a radiator made by Ron Davis. When I bought our car it came with a new Fluidyne. Which leaked. Honestly - check the web - way too many of the Fluidynes leak at the tube sheet. The easiest option is to have your current radiator cleaned out. This may well solve the issue. Of course, using an appropriate thermostat is also right up in keeping things running cool. None the less - I am glad to read that you are driving your Pantera! Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Owen Cooke Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:13 AM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) > 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) > 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) > 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) > 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) > 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) > 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) > 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join > (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the > farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; > 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of > America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the > farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > > > Hi Owen: What has changed, thermostat ? Make sure it is a Cleveland specific unit. Is there air in the system ? Jack up the back end of the car and bleed the cooling system. Use a 50/50 premix antifreeze. Don't pull Tha radiator unless that is a last resort, and hood vents should never be required. Cheers, Bill Moore Incendium Supply Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Stephen <steve(a)snclocks.com> Date: 2016-07-05 9:13 AM (GMT-07:00) To: 'Owen Cooke' <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 Good morning Owen. Honestly - vents in the hood are a lot of work and, in my opinion, not worth the effort. You don't mention if your engine has been upgraded, but, for reference, I am running a fairly powerful 351 (480 hp) and using a radiator supplied by Pantera Performance. I believe they use a radiator made by Ron Davis. When I bought our car it came with a new Fluidyne. Which leaked. Honestly - check the web - way too many of the Fluidynes leak at the tube sheet. The easiest option is to have your current radiator cleaned out. This may well solve the issue. Of course, using an appropriate thermostat is also right up in keeping things running cool. None the less - I am glad to read that you are driving your Pantera! Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Owen Cooke Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:13 AM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) > 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) > 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) > 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) > 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) > 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) > 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) > 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join > (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the > farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; > 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of > America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the > farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > > >

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broken cowling screws and wiper spray install.
by Rob Dumoulin 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

This applies to an early '71. One of my cowling screws is broken flush. I neglected to drill it out before the paint job and now am needing to do so with minimal collateral damage. It has been broken at least 8 year and now even has a nice coat of paint further sealing the threads. Any tricks? Also, body shop removed my windshield spray nozzle and informed me the were unable to install it back. There seems no room to get to the nut in the underside of the cowling to tighten it let alone get the threads started. This applies to an early '71. One of my cowling screws is broken flush. I neglected to drill it out before the paint job and now am needing to do so with minimal collateral damage. It has been broken at least 8 year and now even has a nice coat of paint further sealing the threads. Any tricks? Also, body shop removed my windshield spray nozzle and informed me the were unable to install it back. There seems no room to get to the nut in the underside of the cowling to tighten it let alone get the threads started.

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