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At the track....
by Mike Drew 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

Two Panteras competing this weekend at Le Mans, both gr4 replicas: Two cars being auctioned off--a USA GTS #7010 And a scruffy 1973 Hall conversion GT5-S: Sent from my iPhone

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Forged Clutch Lever on ebay, pertty cheap
by Ken Green 08 Jul '16

08 Jul '16

This seems like a great deal: DETOMASO PANTERA CLUTCH SHIFT LEVER MECHANISM FORGED | | | | | | | | | | | DETOMASO PANTERA CLUTCH SHIFT LEVER MECH...US $19.00 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | I have heard that the stock levers can break, this seems like cheap insurance. I bought one a while back, for probably twice the price of this one. Ken This seems like a great deal: [1]DETOMASO PANTERA CLUTCH SHIFT LEVER MECHANISM FORGED [2]image [3]DETOMASO PANTERA CLUTCH SHIFT LEVER MECH... US $19.00 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts [4]View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo I have heard that the stock levers can break, this seems like cheap insurance. I bought one a while back, for probably twice the price of this one. Ken References 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-CLUTCH-SHIFT-LEVER-MECHANISM-FORGE… 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-CLUTCH-SHIFT-LEVER-MECHANISM-FORGE… 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-CLUTCH-SHIFT-LEVER-MECHANISM-FORGE… 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-CLUTCH-SHIFT-LEVER-MECHANISM-FORGE…

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
by Owen Cooke 08 Jul '16

08 Jul '16

Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) > 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) > 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) > 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) > 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) > 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) > 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) > 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join > (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this > time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora > could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish > my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' > <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this > time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora > could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Kimball > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Congrats! > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish > my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > Sincerely, > Chris > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >> >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >> >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > >

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by Bill Lewis 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

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NPC-Forum on Google Chrome Gmail
by Matt 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

Howdy folks, I receive the daily digest and every since it was "fixed" to have the ability to attach pics my list of emails is a scrambled mess. It's been like that for months or since the change. It seems like I get endless resends of old "original message" posts and then I get "references" which list everybody's email. I counted one that listed 432 referenced emails. I have just been wading through it all to get to the actual new posts but thought someone might have a fix. It is also that way when I view it on Explorer. Is there something in settings I might change? Is it Gmail? Anybody? BTW thank you Kurt for keeping it going! Thanks, Matt 3584 Howdy folks, I receive the daily digest and every since it was "fixed" to have the ability to attach pics my list of emails is a scrambled mess. It's been like that for months or since the change. It seems like I get endless resends of old "original message" posts and then I get "references" which list everybody's email. I counted one that listed 432 referenced emails. I have just been wading through it all to get to the actual new posts but thought someone might have a fix. It is also that way when I view it on Explorer. Is there something in settings I might change? Is it Gmail? Anybody? BTW thank you Kurt for keeping it going! Thanks, Matt 3584

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 145, Issue 7
by Owen Cooke 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

Marshall thanks for that can you advise if using bette fans mounted on the stock fan brackets is viable or should i go for new sucker fans mounted on the rad owen On 07/07/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 (marshall smith) > 2. Re: More fun in France (Larry - Ohio Time) > 3. Re: More fun in France (ehpantera) > 4. Re: Speaking of radiators. (marshall smith) > 5. Re: Speaking of radiators. (Himes, Terry (397C)) > 6. Re: Speaking of radiators. (Larry - Ohio Time) > 7. Re: Speaking of radiators and Wheels On Mars > (Himes, Terry (397C)) > 8. Re: Places to store and share car details... (Dennis Valdez) > 9. Re: Speaking of radiators. (Doug) > 10. Re: Hub Centric rear wheel spacers (Mike Drew) > 11. Re: Hub Centric rear wheel spacers (rfmccall(a)comcast.net) > 12. Re: Hub Centric rear wheel spacers (Larry Stock) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 17:12:21 +0000 (UTC) > From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net> > To: <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>, Owen Cooke > <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 > Message-ID: > <1704888876.3877927.1467825141719.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey Owen > You have received plenty of great advice on this issue. I just wanted to add a couple things: > > ~~Imho....not cut the hood. I have never seen a Pantera that WOULD cool itself with the hood open but NOT with the hood closed. > ~~Also, an upgrade to modern day fans is a must. That technology just wasn't available in the early seventies. > ~~Which ever fans you use, have a dedicated power source for those fans with healthy size wiring. Compare your fan power as wired now with the same fans but with a large wire directly from the battery. You might notice a sizable increase in blade speed > ~~And lastly, NEVER use the auxiliary fan switch on the console. Wire both fans to operate with temperature switches. A manual switch for your radiator fan is as silly as using a manual switch for your oil pump. > > Marshall > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 7/5/16, Owen Cooke <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 > To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 7:13 AM > > Guys? i need advice please > > > I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera > > i have some cooling problems in traffic? even though i > am in Ireland and > its never very hot here > > rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood > i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some > boiling over > the fans were working but they are the originals and not > very powerful > > i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new > rad and > fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts > this the one with puller fans? but i want to keep it > upright > > does this plan make sense > i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had > this slight > boiling over in the swirl tank once > also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front? > and it read about > 160 degrees? until now its reading 230 degress all the > time with only > veery small vasriation in reading? even when engine is > cold > any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? > i would appreciate advice > > best regards? owen cooke > > On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > wrote: > > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > > ??? detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > ??? http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > ??? detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > ??? detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is > more specific > > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >? ???1. Re: Good News (for me > anyways) (Mike Thomas) > >? ???2. Re: Good News (for me > anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > >? ???3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff > Detrich) > >? ???4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff > Detrich) > >? ???5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff > Detrich) > >? ???6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for > www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) > >? ???7. Rear calliper rebuild kit > for a? '74 (Michael Barnes) > >? ???8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild > kit for a? '74 (Mike Drew) > >? ???9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url > for www.poca.com/join > >? ? ? ? (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, > "'MyCars'" > > ??? <mycars(a)comcast.net>, > "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > > ??? <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Message-ID: > <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain;??? > charset="us-ascii" > > > > Yes you do, Chris . . .? Well, in one sense at > least.? Some have said that > > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really > bought the farm this > > time . . .".? So, by that reasoning, selling the > farm and selling Pandora > > could mean one ant the same.? I know that is not > in your plans . . . > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] > On Behalf > > Of Christopher Kimball > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; > Pantera Owners Club of America > > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > > > Congrats! > > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to > sell so I can finish > > my car.? Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > > Sincerely, > > Chris > > > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net > >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >> > >> So I finally got the organic certification for the > farm, it has been 2 > >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & > selling a few acres > >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. > >> > >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for > the avocados, I'll be > >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera > & convertible > >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time > mid-summer. Two years of > >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to > tear up some roads. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted > emails must not exceed > >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >> > >> To manage your subscription (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) use > > the links above. > >> Members who post to this list grant license to the > list to forward any > > message posted here to all past, current, or future > members of the list. > > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain > an archive or approve > > the archiving of list messages. > >?????? > ???????? > ?????? ??? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, > 'MyCars' > > ??? <mycars(a)comcast.net>, > 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > > ??? <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my > mind more frequently... > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > ________________________________ > > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; > 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; > 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > > > Yes you do, Chris . . .? Well, in one sense at > least.? Some have said that > > when you and Pandora came together, that you "really > bought the farm this > > time . . .".? So, by that reasoning, selling the > farm and selling Pandora > > could mean one ant the same.? I know that is not > in your plans . . . > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] > On Behalf > > Of Christopher Kimball > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > > To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; > Pantera Owners Club of America > > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > > > Congrats! > > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to > sell so I can finish > > my car.? Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > > Sincerely, > > Chris > > > >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >> From: mycars(a)comcast.net > >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >> > >> So I finally got the organic certification for the > farm, it has been 2 > >> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & > selling a few acres > >> worth of avocados to a local distributor. > >> > >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for > the avocados, I'll be > >> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera > & convertible > >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time > mid-summer. Two years of > >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to > tear up some roads. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted > emails must not exceed > >> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >> > >> To manage your subscription (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) use > > the links above. > >> Members who post to this list grant license to the > list to forward any > > message posted here to all past, current, or future > members of the list. > > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain > an archive or approve > > the archiving of list messages. > > > > > >

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Re: [DeTomaso] Hub Centric rear wheel spacers
by Mike Drew 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

Terry, Hall Pantera sells a bolt-on spacer like you describe although I don't think it is hub-centric. The red Euro GTS that conked out in France the other day is fitted with a similar, European produced version that is guaranteed to be of the highest quality because its approved for use on Swiss roads and the Swiss vehicle inspection is notoriously tough. I will get that manufacturer info for you. Personally I hate the idea. Besides looking weird, I think it places undue stress on the suspension components. The Swiss car is already suffering from axle wear on one side. While this is a common failure and so can't be entirely blamed on these spacers, intuitively I think they probably exacerbate the situation. Save your sheckels and get a nice set of repro 10-inch wheels from Marvic and that will solve all your problems. :) Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2016, at 7:14, <taappleby(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi All > I'm searching for two, hub centric spacers for the rear of my '74 Pantera, to space out the std 8 inch campy wheels, to fill the rear wheel wells better. > Any ideas who stocks them with the 62mm center bore and 5 x 4.5 stud pattern ? > Thanks > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12558 - Release Date: 07/04/16

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Speaking of radiators.
by Himes, Terry (397C) 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <larrys(a)panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>, "'MyCars'" <mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net<mailto:002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars' <mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Mike Thomas Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of America' Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris > To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > From: mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > worth of avocados to a local distributor. > > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net 2. mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com 3. mailto:mycars@comcast.net 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010(a)aol.com<mailto:jjd1010@aol.com>> To: Charles Engles <cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session Message-ID: <CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: Dear Jeff, Hmmm. I am a computer dope. Try an email to : [1]deTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> You might also try to Google Detomasolist.com, which might have the sign up info. Also, since you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates. You might just try sending an email...... I hope that helps. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles From: JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM To: cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Re: Tech Session Where do I find the new old forum? In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [2]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: Dear Jeff, Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, $111.33 to Mike DiTucci. I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you directly. Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt. The New Old Forum is good. Mr. Shortt is suffering from mental illness. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles rom: [3]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [5]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Tech Session Chuck, Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be reimbursed for? Jeff PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References 1. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:cengles@cox.net 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A A A Hmmm.A A I am a computer dope.A Try an email to : A A [1][2]deTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A You might also try to Google A A Detomasolist.com,A A which might have the sign up info.A A Also,A since A A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new A A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A A You might just try A A sending an email......A A A I hope that helps. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, A A Chuck Engles A A From: [3]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:[4]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM A A To: [5]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Re: Tech Session A A Where do I find the new old forum? A A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, A A [2][6]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, A A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you A A directly. A A A A A A A A A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by A A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A The New Old Forum is good.A A Mr. A A Shortt is suffering from mental illness. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards,A Chuck Engles A A rom: [3][7]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM A A To: [5][9]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Tech Session A A Chuck, A A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be A A reimbursed for? A A Jeff A A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References A A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A 2. mailto:[11]cengles@cox.net A A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010@aol.com A A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010@aol.com A A 5. mailto:[14]cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:cengles@cox.net 2. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net 6. mailto:cengles@cox.net 7. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 8. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 9. mailto:cengles@cox.net 10. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:cengles@cox.net 12. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 13. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 14. mailto:cengles@cox.net 15. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich(a)gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: laurieferrari(a)aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie Message-ID: <CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso < detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section of Profiles. I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism. I know that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new benefits we are seeing. I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no information is too little. Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact information on the membership information page. My warmest greetings to everyone! Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: A A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in A A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews A A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars A A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, A A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter A A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section A A of Profiles. A A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be A A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A I know A A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been A A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. A A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly A A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever A A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even A A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem A A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede A A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has A A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need A A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire A A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and A A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new A A benefits we are seeing. A A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your A A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no A A information is too little.A Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles A A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact A A information on the membership information page. A A My warmest greetings to everyone! A A Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich(a)gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: John McKee <johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Message-ID: <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. [1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for _cars.htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma t.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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References 1. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm 2. mailto:johnmckee@cox.net 3. http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200 From: John Bennett <jbennett111(a)zoho.com<mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com>> To: "DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797(a)zoho.com<mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -------------- next part -------------- Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[4]SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to [5]www.poca.com/join to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896& module_id=225364 Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA [7]www.poca.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [8]sdpanteras+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to [9]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit [10]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. References 1. mailto:edducati@mac.com 2. http://www.poca.com/join 3. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 4. mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com 5. http://www.poca.com/join 6. https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modul e_id=225364 7. http://www.poca.com/ 8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com 9. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100 From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> To: Detomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200(a)phx.gbl<mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900 From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49(a)aol.com<mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michael, Here you go: http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Michael, Here you go: [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <[2]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/ 2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400 From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf(a)embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> To: "'DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:'DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>'" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site? If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to purchase in case there is one desired? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of John Bennett Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM To: DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry Stock <[3]larrys(a)panteraparts.com> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com>, "[5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[7]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [8]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [9]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [12]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [13]detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[14]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" <[16]mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <[17]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[18]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[20]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[21]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [22]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com From: [23]mycars(a)comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [24]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [25]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[26]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> To: Mike Thomas <[27]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' <[28]mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <[29]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[30]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<[31]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<[33]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<[34]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[35]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[36]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[37]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [38]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com From: [39]mycars(a)comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [40]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [41]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
by Himes, Terry (397C) 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 http://eyes.nasa.gov/ [cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>>, 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>, 'Paul Timko' <thedrol(a)pobox.com<mailto:thedrol@pobox.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers. But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later… "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>, 'Paul Timko' <thedrol(a)pobox.com<mailto:thedrol@pobox.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Paul Timko <thedrol(a)pobox.com<mailto:thedrol@pobox.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote: 71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but the deck was really hot to the touch. Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but would like the real protection of an insulator. Thanks in advance to the "collective", jerry knotts _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ [cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [4]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol(a)pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers. But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later... "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [12]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol(a)pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol(a)pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote: 71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but the deck was really hot to the touch. Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but would like the real protection of an insulator. Thanks in advance to the "collective", jerry knotts _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [25]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [26]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [29]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html 2. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators and Wheels On Mars
by Himes, Terry (397C) 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

No, but HOLES are another problem. The wheels are machined from a single block of aluminum, and the skin is only 0.75 mm thick. Some wheels have been punctured several times by solid hard, pointy lava rock. Here's a good explanation; http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2014/08190630-curiosity-whe… Fun times. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 12:10 PM To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>>, Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>>, 'Larry Stock' <larrys(a)panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, 'Owen Cooke' <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. No need to check the hubs for heat on you vehicle, Terry Larry (damn good work sir) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:55 PM To: marshall smith; Larry Stock; Owen Cooke; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Thanks. And to brake from 160,000 mph to 14,000 mph was fun too!! ;-)) Only took 35 min. Jupiter is bad-a$$. Or should I say RAD-A$$. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net><mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>> Reply-To: Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net><mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:47 AM To: Larry Stock <larrys(a)panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, Owen Cooke <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>, Terry Himes <Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Hey Terry... Congrats to you on your Fun Rally to Jupiter!! One second after a five year trip? You should run the Silver State with a dial-in like that!! Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/5/16, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote: Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. To: "Larry Stock" <larrys(a)panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, "Owen Cooke" <owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 8:22 AM Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <[3]larrys(a)panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "[5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[6]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[7]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of [8]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [9]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [12]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [13]detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[14]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net><mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com><mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>, "'MyCars'" <[16]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <[17]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[18]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net<mailto:002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net><mailto:002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[20]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[21]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [22]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: [23]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [24]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [25]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[26]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com><mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <[27]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net><mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars' <[28]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <[29]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[30]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl><mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<[31]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<[33]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<[34]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[35]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[36]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[37]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [38]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: [39]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [40]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [41]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Mike Thomas Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of America' Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[5][42]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[43]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[44]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris > To: [45]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > From: [46]mycars(a)comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net><mailto:mycars@comcast.net> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > worth of avocados to a local distributor. > > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [47]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [6][48]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [49]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net 2. [50]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com 3. [51]mailto:mycars@comcast.net 4. [52]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. [53]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 6. [54]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <[55]jjd1010(a)aol.com<mailto:jjd1010@aol.com><mailto:jjd1010@aol.com>> To: Charles Engles <[56]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net>> Cc: [57]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session Message-ID: <[58]CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com><mailto:CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[59]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: Dear Jeff, Hmmm. I am a computer dope. Try an email to : [1][60]deTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> You might also try to Google Detomasolist.com, which might have the sign up info. Also, since you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates. You might just try sending an email...... I hope that helps. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles From: [61]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com><mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[62]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM To: [63]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Re: Tech Session Where do I find the new old forum? In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [2][64]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: Dear Jeff, Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, $111.33 to Mike DiTucci. I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you directly. Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt. The New Old Forum is good. Mr. Shortt is suffering from mental illness. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles rom: [3][65]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com><mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4][66]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [5][67]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Tech Session Chuck, Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be reimbursed for? Jeff PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References 1. [68]mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. [69]mailto:cengles@cox.net 3. [70]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. [71]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. [72]mailto:cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [73]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [74]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1][75]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A A A Hmmm.A A I am a computer dope.A Try an email to : A A [1][2][76]deTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A You might also try to Google A A Detomasolist.com,A A which might have the sign up info.A A Also,A since A A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new A A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A A You might just try A A sending an email......A A A I hope that helps. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, A A Chuck Engles A A From: [3][77]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com><mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[78]mailto:[4]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM A A To: [5][79]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Re: Tech Session A A Where do I find the new old forum? A A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, A A [2][6][80]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, A A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you A A directly. A A A A A A A A A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by A A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A The New Old Forum is good.A A Mr. A A Shortt is suffering from mental illness. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards,A Chuck Engles A A rom: [3][7][81]JJD1010(a)aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com><mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4][82]mailto:[8]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM A A To: [5][9][83]cengles(a)cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net><mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Tech Session A A Chuck, A A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be A A reimbursed for? A A Jeff A A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References A A 1. [84]mailto:[10]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A 2. [85]mailto:[11]cengles@cox.net A A 3. [86]mailto:[12]JJD1010@aol.com A A 4. [87]mailto:[13]JJD1010@aol.com A A 5. [88]mailto:[14]cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15][89]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [16][90]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [91]mailto:cengles@cox.net 2. [92]mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. [93]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. [94]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. [95]mailto:cengles@cox.net 6. [96]mailto:cengles@cox.net 7. [97]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 8. [98]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 9. [99]mailto:cengles@cox.net 10. [100]mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [101]mailto:cengles@cox.net 12. [102]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 13. [103]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 14. [104]mailto:cengles@cox.net 15. [105]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. [106]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <[107]jjdetrich(a)gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com><mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: [108]laurieferrari(a)aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com><mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: [109]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie Message-ID: <[110]CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA(a)mail.gmail.co<mailto:CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.co><mailto:CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.co> m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso < [111]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section of Profiles. I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism. I know that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new benefits we are seeing. I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no information is too little. Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact information on the membership information page. My warmest greetings to everyone! Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [112]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [113]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <[1][114]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: A A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in A A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews A A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars A A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, A A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter A A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section A A of Profiles. A A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be A A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A I know A A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been A A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. A A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly A A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever A A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even A A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem A A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede A A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has A A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need A A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire A A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and A A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new A A benefits we are seeing. A A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your A A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no A A information is too little.A Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles A A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact A A information on the membership information page. A A My warmest greetings to everyone! A A Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2][115]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [3][116]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [117]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. [118]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. [119]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <[120]jjdetrich(a)gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com><mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: John McKee <[121]johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net><mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> Cc: Detomaso <[122]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Message-ID: <[123]CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA(a)mail.gmail.co<mailto:CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.co><mailto:CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.co> m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. [124]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_f or_cars .htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[125]johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net><mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats [126]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat .html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[127]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <[128]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [129]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [130]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [131]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [132]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. [1][133]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/damper s_for _cars.htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2][134]johnmckee(a)cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net><mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats [3][135]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical- ma t.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[136]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <[5][137]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6][138]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [7][139]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8][140]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [9][141]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [142]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_f or_cars .htm 2. [143]mailto:johnmckee@cox.net 3. [144]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat .html 4. [145]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 5. [146]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. [147]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. [148]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. [149]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. [150]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200 From: John Bennett <[151]jbennett111(a)zoho.com<mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com><mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com>> To: "[152]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[153]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <[154]E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797(a)zoho.com<mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com><mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[155]edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com><mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[156]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[157]SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com><mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <[158]http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: [159]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99989 6&modu le_id=225364 <[160]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=9998 96&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <[161]http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [162]sdpanteras+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <[163]mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to [164]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <[165]mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit [166]https://groups.google.com/d/optout <[167]https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -------------- next part -------------- Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[1][168]edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com><mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[3][169]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[4][170]SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com><mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to [5]www.poca.com/join to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: [6][171]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99 9896& module_id=225364 Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA [7]www.poca.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [8][172]sdpanteras+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to [9][173]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit [10][174]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. References 1. [175]mailto:edducati@mac.com 2. [176]http://www.poca.com/join 3. [177]mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 4. [178]mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com 5. [179]http://www.poca.com/join 6. [180]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99989 6&modul e_id=225364 7. [181]http://www.poca.com/ 8. [182]mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com 9. [183]mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 10. [184]https://groups.google.com/d/optout ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100 From: Michael Barnes <[185]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk><mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> To: Detomaso <[186]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <[187]DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200(a)phx.gbl<mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl><mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900 From: Mike Drew <[188]MikeLDrew(a)aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>> To: Michael Barnes <[189]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk><mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> Cc: Detomaso <[190]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <[191]5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49(a)aol.com<mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com><mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michael, Here you go: [192]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <[193]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk><mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [194]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [195]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Michael, Here you go: [1][196]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <[2][197]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk><mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3][198]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [4][199]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [200]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ 2. [201]mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk 3. [202]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. [203]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400 From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[204]byrdjf(a)embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com><mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> To: "[205]'DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:'DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com><mailto:'DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>'" <[206]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <[207]edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com><mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site? If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to purchase in case there is one desired? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[208]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of John Bennett Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM To: [209]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com><mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[210]edducati(a)mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com><mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[211]sdpanteras(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com><mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[212]SCPOCA(a)yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com><mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. No, but HOLES are another problem. The wheels are machined from a single block of aluminum, and the skin is only 0.75 mm thick. Some wheels have been punctured several times by solid hard, pointy lava rock. Here's a good explanation; [1]http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2014/08190630-curios ity-wheel-damage.html Fun times. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [2]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov From: Larry - Ohio Time <[3]Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[4]Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 12:10 PM To: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov>, Marshall Smith <[6]marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net>, 'Larry Stock' <[7]larrys(a)panteraparts.com>, 'Owen Cooke' <[8]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com>, "[9]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. No need to check the hubs for heat on you vehicle, Terry Larry (damn good work sir) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[11]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:55 PM To: marshall smith; Larry Stock; Owen Cooke; [12]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Thanks. And to brake from 160,000 mph to 14,000 mph was fun too!! ;-)) Only took 35 min. Jupiter is bad-a$$. Or should I say RAD-A$$. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [13]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<[14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: Marshall Smith <[15]marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net<[16]mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.n et>> Reply-To: Marshall Smith <[17]marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net<[18]mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.n et>> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:47 AM To: Larry Stock <[19]larrys(a)panteraparts.com<[20]mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, Owen Cooke <[21]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<[22]mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "[23]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[24]mailto:detomaso@server.detoma solist.com>" <[25]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[26]mailto:detomaso@server.detoma solist.com>>, Terry Himes <[27]Terry.Himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<[28]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Hey Terry... Congrats to you on your Fun Rally to Jupiter!! One second after a five year trip? You should run the Silver State with a dial-in like that!! Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/5/16, Himes, Terry (397C) <[29]terry.himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<[30]mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote: Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. To: "Larry Stock" <[31]larrys(a)panteraparts.com<[32]mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, "Owen Cooke" <[33]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<[34]mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "[35]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[36]mailto:detomaso@server.detoma solist.com>" <[37]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[38]mailto:detomaso@server.detoma solist.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 8:22 AM Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][39]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<[40]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2][41]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<[42]mailto:detomaso-bo unces(a)server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <[3][43]larrys(a)panteraparts.com<[44]mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[4][45]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<[46]mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "[5][47]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[48]mailto:detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>" <[6][49]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[50]mailto:detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[7][51]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<[52]mailto:detomaso-bo unces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of [8][53]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com<[54]mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [9][55]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<[56]mailto:detomaso-req uest(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10][57]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[58]mailto:detomaso@server.det omasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [11][59]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [12][60]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com<[61]mailto:detomaso-re quest(a)server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [13][62]detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com<[63]mailto:detomaso-owne r(a)server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." 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Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[14][64]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<[65]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15][66]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<[67]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>, "'MyCars'" <[16][68]mycars(a)comcast.net<[69]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <[17][70]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[71]mailto:detomaso@server.de tomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[18][72]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net<[73]mailto:002301d 1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19][74]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[20][75]mycars(a)comcast.net<[76]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[21][77]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[78]mailto:detomaso@server.de tomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [22][79]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[80]mailto:detomaso@server.det omasolist.com> From: [23][81]mycars(a)comcast.net<[82]mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [24][83]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[84]mailto:DeTomaso@server.det omasolist.com> [25][85]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[26][86]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com<[87]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <[27][88]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net<[89]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars' <[28][90]mycars(a)comcast.net<[91]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <[29][92]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[93]mailto:detomaso@server.de tomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[30][94]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl<[95]mailto:SNT4 04-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<[31][96]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32][97]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<[33][98]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<[34][99]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[35][100]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[36][101]mycars(a)comcast.net<[102]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[37][103]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[104]mailto:detomaso@server. detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [38][105]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[106]mailto:detomaso@server.d etomasolist.com> From: [39][107]mycars(a)comcast.net<[108]mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [40][109]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<[110]mailto:DeTomaso@server.d etomasolist.com> [41][111]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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