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New electrical Wiring systems for a street and a race Pantera ???
by Patrick HALS 10 Jul '16

10 Jul '16

Hi all, Did anyone experience the new wiring harnesses from Painless Performance ? Any other solution ? I need a complete electric wiring system for a French friend of mine ( for a street car ) , and despite seeing some opportunities, I haven't able to get one at a decent price, but I also need one for me , for a GR4 replica that I am building for the moment. The one for the race car doesn't need to be as "sophisticated" as the one for a standard, mostly original street car. I have looked at the http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/10117 website, and I don't know what to do.... Is there any other supplier that can be recommanded ? Any particular reference ? Mayday please :>)) Thank you ! For those who are interested in racing, go have a look " live " at Le Mans Classic today, http://www.lemansclassic.com/language/fr/accueil/#primary. There are two GR4 Panteras ( replicas ) racing today, Plateau 5 and Plateau 6, They are apparently doing well ! Start of plateau 5 is around 2.00 PM Central European time , and 3.00 PM for Plateau 6 ( the one Candy used to race ) Best to you all Patrick Candy 2862 - ADA 9628 Hi all,A Did anyone experience the new wiring harnesses from Painless Performance ?A Any other solution ?A I need a complete electric wiring system for a French friend of mine ( for a street car ) , and despite seeing some opportunities, I haven't able to get one at a decent price, but I also need one for me , for a GR4 replica that I am building for the moment. The one for the race car doesn't need to be as "sophisticated" as the one for a standard, mostly original street car. I have looked at theA [1]http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/10117 website, and I don't know what to do.... Is there any other supplier that can be recommanded ? Any particular reference ?A Mayday please :>)) Thank you ! For those who are interested in racing, go have a look " live " at Le Mans Classic today, A A [2]http://www.lemansclassic.com/language/fr/accueil/#primary. There are two GR4 Panteras ( replicas ) racing today, Plateau 5 and Plateau 6, They are apparently doing well ! Start of plateau 5 is around 2.00 PM Central European time , and 3.00 PM for Plateau 6 ( the one Candy used to race ) Best to you allA PatrickA Candy 2862 - ADA 9628 References 1. http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/10117 2. http://www.lemansclassic.com/language/fr/accueil/#primary

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NPC-Gmail test
by Matt 10 Jul '16

10 Jul '16

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Great view!
by Mike Drew 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

Thanks to some hard work I have all-access passes so we are right now on the front straight right under the Rolex clock, literally inches from the track: Ran into a 20-year friend, Andy Prill, one of the world's foremost vintage Porsche specialists. He's having a great time as you can see! Here he is hopping into a Porsche 3.0RS, winner of the '78 euro championship: When along came Chris McAllister, two-time winner of this event. He is driving a Gulf Mirage. His son Alex is to his left; Alex is Gray's co-driver in the Chevron. Chris is Good People, and has a Mangusta among a host of other cars: This race just got red flagged due to a crash. Unusual to see that here... Mike Sent from my iPhone

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Cars and Coffee this morning. 3 Panteras and a Goose!
by Rob Dumoulin 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

OK, this may seem a funny title to you West Coasters, but getting everybody's schedule to align such that 4 of our cars can be at the same place is a little harder down here. I hear it has something to do with Bermuda. The Local Jacksonville C&C had an American Muscle Car theme on the upper level and the event organizer wanted us to be with them because, in his words, "You guys have a good story". Two other Panteras could not make it, but Steve Duba, Brad Freemen, and I brought ours. Kate and Dan brought their Quavle Mangusta which got about as much attention as the Panteras combined. Out of protest, Brad is blocking the Goose in the photo below :) It has been triple digit brutal in N. Florida this week. Steve and Brad both finished up their caliper rebuilds yesterday to make it to the event. I got there early and grabbed a spot that gave us shade for the first 90 minutes. There were maybe 130 cars total from a Ferrari 488 down to a beautifully modernized '52 VW Bug. The sun came up in full force at 9:30 AM and cars started leaving. We all pulled out together about 10 AM. Great car day with great car people. It does not get any better. [image: Inline image 1] Rob OK, this may seem a funny title to you West Coasters, but getting everybody's schedule to align such that 4 of our cars can be at the same place is a little harder down here. I hear it has something to do with Bermuda.A The Local Jacksonville C&C had an American Muscle Car theme on the upper level and the event organizer wanted us to be with them because, in his words, "You guys have a good story". Two other Panteras could not make it, but Steve Duba, Brad Freemen, and I brought ours. Kate and Dan brought their Quavle Mangusta which got about as much attention as the Panteras combined.A Out of protest, Brad is blocking the Goose in the photo below :) It has been triple digit brutal in N. Florida this week. Steve and Brad both finished up their caliper rebuilds yesterday to make it to the event. I got there early and grabbed a spot that gave us shade for the first 90 minutes. There were maybe 130 cars total from a Ferrari 488 down to a beautifully modernized '52 VW Bug. The sun came up in full force at 9:30 AM and cars started leaving. We all pulled out together about 10 AM.A Great car day with great car people.A It does not get any better. Inline image 1 Rob

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Marvic wheels....
by Mike Drew 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

They had a terrific display stand in the paddock showing a variety of wheels for various cars including Gr4 Pantera, Vallelunga, and 10-inch Pantera... Mike Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] Forum traffic
by marshallgsmith 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

'Sure' your not! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: 7/9/16 11:54 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Bill Moore <bill(a)incendium.com> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Forum traffic I got the posts and photos too.....and while I'm along on the trip, I'm not holding hand with either Julian or Mike! > On Jul 9, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Bill Moore <bill(a)incendium.com> wrote: > > Julian, ya well you guys are holding hands > > > Cheers: > > Please use my bill(a)incendium.com email address in all messages. > > Bill Moore > Incendium Supply Ltd. > Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W. > Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9 > 403.202.0055 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift > Sent: July-09-16 8:22 AM > To: Mike Drew > Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; L GRAY > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Forum traffic > > Mike, > > I received posts from you with LMC photos. > > Julian > >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Fwiw I have sent several posts w/small photos and none appear to have gone through. Size isn't an issue. Perhaps lost in the tubes of the Internet? >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:38, Scott Mead Photography <scott(a)scottmeadphotography.com> wrote: >>> >>> Naw... It's what you didn't say, Les! :-) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:23 PM, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ........awfully quiet here today. . . Is it something I said ?? >>>> >>>> Leslie A. Gray >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 'Sure' your not! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: 7/9/16 11:54 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Bill Moore <bill(a)incendium.com> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Forum traffic I got the posts and photos too.....and while I'm along on the trip, I'm not holding hand with either Julian or Mike! > On Jul 9, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Bill Moore <bill(a)incendium.com> wrote: > > Julian, ya well you guys are holding hands > > > Cheers: > > Please use my bill(a)incendium.com email address in all messages. > > Bill Moore > Incendium Supply Ltd. > Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W. > Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9 > 403.202.0055 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift > Sent: July-09-16 8:22 AM > To: Mike Drew > Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; L GRAY > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Forum traffic > > Mike, > > I received posts from you with LMC photos. > > Julian > >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Fwiw I have sent several posts w/small photos and none appear to have gone through. Size isn't an issue. Perhaps lost in the tubes of the Internet? >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:38, Scott Mead Photography <scott(a)scottmeadphotography.com> wrote: >>> >>> Naw... It's what you didn't say, Les! :-) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:23 PM, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ........awfully quiet here today. . . Is it something I said ?? >>>> >>>> Leslie A. Gray >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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180 Exhaust System for Production
by Rob Dumoulin 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

Guys, I just talked to a Pantera guy who does not do technology often and therefore I volunteered to poll for interest in the community. If you are interested in a new custom 180 exhaust system that will allow you to use your trunk and keep your AC condenser in its stock location, drop me a line off list. If this guy builds it, I am confident it will be high quality and tuned to perform extremely well. Rob Guys, I just talked to a Pantera guy who does not do technology often and therefore I volunteered to poll for interest in the community.A If you are interested in a new custom 180 exhaust system that will allow you to use your trunk and keep your AC condenser in its stock location, drop me a line off list.A If this guy builds it, I am confident it will be high quality and tuned to perform extremely well. Rob

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
by Jack Donahue 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

Yeah - they recommend the HyperKuhl flush first. > On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:27 PM, audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: > > Uh oh. I have had no-rosion in my aluminum Fluidyne unit for many years. So far no problems but this is good to know for my upcoming coolant flush. > > Thanks! > > > > Sent using Hushmail > > > On July 7, 2016 at 7:47 PM, "Jack Donahue" <demongusta(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just a note: I read up on NoRosion - VERY neat product - I’m convinced. However, it should be noted that the maker DOES NOT recommend it for aluminum radiators vs brass/copper. They recommend HyperKuhl (their product, of course) for aluminum. > Thanks for the tip. > Jack > #4348 > On Jul 5, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Larry Stock <larrys(a)panteraparts.com> wrote: > > > > > > If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck > > said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It > > is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator > > much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new > > Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes > > at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. > > Larry Stock > > Pantera Parts Connection > > > > > > > > On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" > > <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of > > owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: > > > >> Guys i need advice please > >> > >> > >> I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera > >> > >> i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and > >> its never very hot here > >> > >> rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood > >> i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over > >> the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful > >> > >> i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and > >> fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts > >> this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright > >> > >> does this plan make sense > >> i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight > >> boiling over in the swirl tank once > >> also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about > >> 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only > >> veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold > >> any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? > >> i would appreciate advice > >> > >> best regards owen cooke > >> > >> On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > >>> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > >>> detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Daily Detomaso List Digest > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) > >>> 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) > >>> 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) > >>> 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) > >>> 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) > >>> 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> (John Bennett) > >>> 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) > >>> 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) > >>> 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> > >>> (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 > >>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> > >>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" > >>> <mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" > >>> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>> Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > >>> that > >>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm > >>> this > >>> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling > >>> Pandora > >>> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Christopher Kimball > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > >>> To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > >>> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>> > >>> Congrats! > >>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > >>> finish > >>> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Chris > >>> > >>>> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>>> From: mycars(a)comcast.net > >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>>> > >>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > >>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > >>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. > >>>> > >>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > >>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > >>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > >>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > >>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > >>>> > >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > >>>> use > >>> the links above. > >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > >>> approve > >>> the archiving of list messages. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Message: 2 > >>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 > >>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> > >>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' > >>> <mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' > >>> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>> Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more > >>> frequently... > >>> > >>> Sent from my Windows Phone > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> > >>> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM > >>> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; > >>> 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of > >>> America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > >>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>> > >>> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said > >>> that > >>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm > >>> this > >>> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling > >>> Pandora > >>> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Christopher Kimball > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM > >>> To: MyCars <mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America > >>> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>> > >>> Congrats! > >>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can > >>> finish > >>> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Chris > >>> > >>>> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>>> From: mycars(a)comcast.net > >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > >>>> > >>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > >>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > >>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. > >>>> > >>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > >>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > >>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > >>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > >>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > >>>> > >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > >>>> use > >>> the links above. > >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > >>> approve > >>> the archiving of list messages. > >>> > >>> > >>> Yeah - they recommend the HyperKuhl flush first. On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:27 PM, [1]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: Uh oh. I have had no-rosion in my aluminum Fluidyne unit for many years. So far no problems but this is good to know for my upcoming coolant flush. Thanks! Sent using Hushmail On July 7, 2016 at 7:47 PM, "Jack Donahue" <[2]demongusta(a)gmail.com> wrote: Just a note: I read up on NoRosion - VERY neat product - I'm convinced. However, it should be noted that the maker DOES NOT recommend it for aluminum radiators vs brass/copper. They recommend HyperKuhl (their product, of course) for aluminum. Thanks for the tip. Jack #4348 On Jul 5, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Larry Stock <[3]larrys(a)panteraparts.com> wrote: > > > If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck > said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It > is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator > much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new > Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes > at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. > Larry Stock > Pantera Parts Connection > > > > On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" > <[4]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of > [5]owen(a)tadhgcooke.com> wrote: > >> Guys i need advice please >> >> >> I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera >> >> i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and >> its never very hot here >> >> rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood >> i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over >> the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful >> >> i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and >> fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts >> this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright >> >> does this plan make sense >> i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight >> boiling over in the swirl tank once >> also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about >> 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only >> veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold >> any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? >> i would appreciate advice >> >> best regards owen cooke >> >> On 26/06/2016 17:00, [6]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: >>> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to >>> [7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [9]detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [10]detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." >>> >>> >>> Daily Detomaso List Digest >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) >>> 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) >>> 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) >>> 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) >>> 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) >>> 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for [11]www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) >>> 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) >>> 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) >>> 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for [12]www.poca.com/join >>> (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 >>> From: "Mike Thomas" <[13]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> >>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[14]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com>, "'MyCars'" >>> <[15]mycars(a)comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" >>> <[16]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> Message-ID: <[17]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$(a)comcast.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said >>> that >>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm >>> this >>> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling >>> Pandora >>> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [[18]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Christopher Kimball >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM >>> To: MyCars <[19]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America >>> <[20]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> >>> Congrats! >>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can >>> finish >>> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... >>> Sincerely, >>> Chris >>> >>>> To: [21]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> From: [22]mycars(a)comcast.net >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>>> >>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >>>> >>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [23]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> [24]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use >>> the links above. >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>> approve >>> the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 >>> From: Christopher Kimball <[25]chrisvkimball(a)msn.com> >>> To: Mike Thomas <[26]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>, 'MyCars' >>> <[27]mycars(a)comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' >>> <[28]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> Message-ID: <[29]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0(a)phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more >>> frequently... >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Mike Thomas<[30]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> >>> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM >>> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[31]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; >>> 'MyCars'<[32]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of >>> America'<[33]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> >>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> >>> Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said >>> that >>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm >>> this >>> time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling >>> Pandora >>> could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [[34]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Christopher Kimball >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM >>> To: MyCars <[35]mycars(a)comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America >>> <[36]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>> >>> Congrats! >>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can >>> finish >>> my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... >>> Sincerely, >>> Chris >>> >>>> To: [37]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> From: [38]mycars(a)comcast.net >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) >>>> >>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 >>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres >>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor. >>>> >>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be >>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible >>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of >>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed >>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [39]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> [40]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use >>> the links above. >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>> approve >>> the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> >>>

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Slumming it in the campsite
by Mike Drew 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

The Danish crew cooking a full breakfast: Kjetil and Lisa from northern Norway drove a billion miles to get here in their brand new custom-built race car hauler with complete motorhome so they are living large! Mike Sent from my iPhone

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The racers--and dinner!
by Mike Drew 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

POCA member Gray Gregory is here with best bud/father-in-law Kirby Schrader. Gray is racing his 1970 Chevron B-16 which was first owned by Steve McQueen and took part in the 1970 race: 8-time Le Mans entrant and legendary De Tomaso distributor Claude Dubois, at 83 years young, is driving a replica of the Triumph TR3 that he raced as part of the Triumph team in 1959: One local French pushbutton Pantera broke down and was flat-towed home and the owner returned in his dune buggy! Lots of nice cars in the parking lot including a genuine Si targa and a fantastic replica built around a Pavesi GT5-S Targa: About 80 De Tomaso people from all over enjoyed a splendid dinner: Back at the campsite at midnight and then to the track to watch the cars of course! I finally crawled into the tent after 2 am after a nice session around the campfire (well, mosquito candles)... Up at 930 am and away! Mike Sent from my iPhone

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