[DeTomaso] Sv.: Re: Sv.: Re: Headlight issue
Cristiano Rossi
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Mon May 20 17:18:02 EDT 2024
Thank you so much for the information, Larry :-)
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Den mandag, maj 20, 2024, 19:32 skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>:
It is just easier to remove the Radiator first. I have done this every which way. You don't need to raise the headlights first either. Once the radiator is out of the way removal and replacement of the gear assembly is easy. The headlight motor is much easier to do theu the front wheel well, but it's typically the Plastic gear that splits and jams in the housing that is the problem.
Larry
On 5/20/24, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Cristiano Rossi via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Dear all
I need to replace the plastic gear for my headlights, and I have the
following questions:
- According to TSB article 116, the first thing to do is to raise the
headlamps. Is this necessary? The headlights are stuck in closed
position, and it will probably not be easy to raise them. The manual
knob does not turn, probably due to the broken plastic gear.
- To remove the 3 bolts retaining the headlight motor is easy for the 2
bolts forward of the radiator. The one rear of the radiator is very
difficult for me to reach. Is this because the headlights are down,
blocking the access, or must the third bolt be reached from underneath
the car, after removing the left front wheel?
- Will I have to loosen the radiator bolts and move the radiator?
- It seems to me that it will be difficult to remove the 2 bolts
retaining the forward limiter switch, they are SO tiny, isnat it likely
that they will break or not come off?
- I guess that when I have loosened everything needed, I must then pull
out the headlight motor/gear assembly through the front wheel well,
correct?
- Are there any tricks to install the bronze gear or is this easy to
do, and are there other things I should be aware of?
Thank you in advance for any feedback. I normally donat do such work,
and I would possibly like to avoid making mistakes :-)
Cristiano Rossi
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Den torsdag, september 21, 2023, 20:29 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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Larry,
It is absolutely untrue that the radiator has to be removed in order to
remove the headlight mechanism. I just did it successfully a few weeks
ago in Chris Kimballas car in Seattle. The headlights need to be raised
and the headlight buckets propped up with a block of wood between the
front edge of the body and the top of the fender. One limit switch
needs to be removed from the plate, and all wires disconnected. Then
remove the three 10mm (M5) bolts and itas simple to withdraw the motor
and gearbox through the access hole in the front edge of the front
fender well.
Chris had a broken gear. But I think Jim has a limit switch problem
because it fixed itself the next day.
Mike
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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:22, Larry Stock <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
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> i>>?Jim, First try to use the knuckle buster hand crank knob in tight
with the left side top of the radiator. If it cranks and lowers the
headlight, that's a good thing, because getting to the limit switch is
an easier way to go. If it is jammed up, it is the plastic regulator
gear that has cracked and needs replacing, just like the window
regulators do with our Brass gear replacement. Unfortunately, you will
need to drain and remove the radiator to get the back of the regulator.
We have been trying to supply a new gear with each Radiator system we
sell these days as they are due to fail.
> Larry Stock
>
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>
> All,
>
>
>
>
> Last evening, I turned on my headlights (which I rarely do - maybe
once
> per year). They came up and lit. turned the switch to off and the
> headlights turned off but did not recede.
>
>
>
>
> OK, a lot of places to look - manana (today).
>
>
>
>
> Today, I urn the ignition on and - lights recede.
>
>
>
>
> Before I go chasing what may be a non-repeatable issue, is this
> commonly an indication of one of the many components involved in the
> headlight operation that could be going bad - like maybe the relay?
> Everything in that circuit is original.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
> Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow 1974 L
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Thank you so much for the information, Larry :-)
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Den mandag, maj 20, 2024, 19:32 skrev Larry Stock
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It is just easier to remove the Radiator first. I have done this every
which way. You don't need to raise the headlights first either. Once
the radiator is out of the way removal and replacement of the gear
assembly is easy. The headlight motor is much easier to do theu the
front wheel well, but it's typically the Plastic gear that splits and
jams in the housing that is the problem.
Larry
i>>?On 5/20/24, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Cristiano Rossi via
DeTomaso" <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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Dear all
I need to replace the plastic gear for my headlights, and I have the
following questions:
- According to TSB article 116, the first thing to do is to raise the
headlamps. Is this necessary? The headlights are stuck in closed
position, and it will probably not be easy to raise them. The manual
knob does not turn, probably due to the broken plastic gear.
- To remove the 3 bolts retaining the headlight motor is easy for the 2
bolts forward of the radiator. The one rear of the radiator is very
difficult for me to reach. Is this because the headlights are down,
blocking the access, or must the third bolt be reached from underneath
the car, after removing the left front wheel?
- Will I have to loosen the radiator bolts and move the radiator?
- It seems to me that it will be difficult to remove the 2 bolts
retaining the forward limiter switch, they are SO tiny, isnat it likely
that they will break or not come off?
- I guess that when I have loosened everything needed, I must then pull
out the headlight motor/gear assembly through the front wheel well,
correct?
- Are there any tricks to install the bronze gear or is this easy to
do, and are there other things I should be aware of?
Thank you in advance for any feedback. I normally donat do such work,
and I would possibly like to avoid making mistakes :-)
Cristiano Rossi
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Den torsdag, september 21, 2023, 20:29 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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Larry,
It is absolutely untrue that the radiator has to be removed in order to
remove the headlight mechanism. I just did it successfully a few weeks
ago in Chris Kimballas car in Seattle. The headlights need to be raised
and the headlight buckets propped up with a block of wood between the
front edge of the body and the top of the fender. One limit switch
needs to be removed from the plate, and all wires disconnected. Then
remove the three 10mm (M5) bolts and itas simple to withdraw the motor
and gearbox through the access hole in the front edge of the front
fender well.
Chris had a broken gear. But I think Jim has a limit switch problem
because it fixed itself the next day.
Mike
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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:22, Larry Stock <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
wrote:
>
> i>>?Jim, First try to use the knuckle buster hand crank knob in tight
with the left side top of the radiator. If it cranks and lowers the
headlight, that's a good thing, because getting to the limit switch is
an easier way to go. If it is jammed up, it is the plastic regulator
gear that has cracked and needs replacing, just like the window
regulators do with our Brass gear replacement. Unfortunately, you will
need to drain and remove the radiator to get the back of the regulator.
We have been trying to supply a new gear with each Radiator system we
sell these days as they are due to fail.
> Larry Stock
>
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>
> All,
>
>
>
>
> Last evening, I turned on my headlights (which I rarely do - maybe
once
> per year). They came up and lit. turned the switch to off and the
> headlights turned off but did not recede.
>
>
>
>
> OK, a lot of places to look - manana (today).
>
>
>
>
> Today, I urn the ignition on and - lights recede.
>
>
>
>
> Before I go chasing what may be a non-repeatable issue, is this
> commonly an indication of one of the many components involved in the
> headlight operation that could be going bad - like maybe the relay?
> Everything in that circuit is original.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
> Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow 1974 L
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