[DeTomaso] Scam Pantera sale??

Fri Apr 28 10:59:49 EDT 2023

Bud,

I think you are right. There was a great article in Sports car Market
recently on this very subject and worth a read for anyone who is in the
market for a car and looking for a deal.

https://www.sportscarmarket.com/columns/legal-files/online-scam-dealers-multiply

Things to check on this add:

   1. Seller has no history on E-Bay, meaning zero sales and appears to be
   a newly created account.
   2. Add says car is in Arizona, but the (954) Area code for the sellers
   phone number is in Florida.
   3. A Google search for their company, "CAR CHOICE AUTO SALES
   LLC" yields no results.
   4. An internet search of the vin THPNNR05835 shows it was sold on Bring
   A Trailer in September of 2022. And in looking at the photos from Bring A
   Trailer, they are the exact same photos used in this E-bay add. Likely just
   stolen from Bring A Trailer.

Lot's of red flags here, and it actually matches the Sports Car Market scam
profile article pretty well.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 7:40 AM B Hower via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> Appears same car, two separate listings running at same time, but
> different end dates on E-bay.
>
> Ser# 5835     15,000  ….    4 days +  ST Paul
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/234987613482?hash=item36b65a6d2a:g:8lsAAOSwbpNkSIRk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwHs%2FqteXcRl0R5ZXfG2C0yMBowcF4L53jwHCEjUNRu1Fl66eAbOrQwEeEjnln6XX8nuLEbqQ0A9X%2By8VW%2BJez7MxM%2FO6ug5iWwcAXD1IxwkWpbkUqfnKnjNPubCF5LyXeydBx2sq6UdxELuFG1nE6QK5yF32UXSYMnup9kwb0zcNAmCAdnRlaNuAFLbq%2FNGPxwCTmZiIf3Hq4aq1hSUAe%2FcmEP8N9h%2Bq2ec2LWZBBOTv8GncGlgL3SigGwbfhV666A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7DiyoP5YQ
>
>
> Ser# 5835     18,000 …..  5 days + Prescott
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/204318338024?hash=item2f92526be8:g:WWcAAOSwTrNkSbzo&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Dux6l1%2B%2BCu0OV%2BfHBPwlJbMOrqJNaa%2F2u0g%2FOxDjoWNUNF7u8ZgWC7HQ6zo4h9zS0RZ7g56DPtdkBNAX0bt1UlOWhYX%2BLL4uq%2B03oe3FDzRNl%2Bh9V5Dl4%2Blvzcl68g9%2BX3XFlJpfNSOxc2BU5lt4Q%2F71al4grrqKlabJvzD7EFjk%2BxJmYCPxFfCiLYto%2B1t5fllZ3kWVk3VCAX1qx1%2BJxFdGbIwrmcvUYEByLRRhXAlb9uRomDHMma9Ofl9tAblyNHXGjkRpp1QAYNoOFHje4Szr9ri4VJftnE8SuulDPtG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5zau4P5Y
>
> Bud
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   Bud,
   I think you are right. There was a great article in Sports car Market
   recently on this very subject and worth a read for anyone who is in the
   market for a car and looking for a deal.A
   [1]https://www.sportscarmarket.com/columns/legal-files/online-scam-deal
   ers-multiply
   Things to check on this add:
    1. Seller has no history on E-Bay, meaning zero sales and appearsA to
       be a newly created account.
    2. Add says car is in Arizona, but the (954) Area code for the sellers
       phone number is in Florida.
    3. A Google search for their company, "CAR CHOICE AUTO SALES
       LLC"A yieldsA no results.
    4. An internet search of the vinA THPNNR05835A shows it was sold on
       Bring A Trailer in September of 2022. And in looking at the photos
       from Bring A Trailer, they are the exact same photos used in this
       E-bay add. Likely just stolen from Bring A Trailer.

   Lot's of red flags here, and it actually matches the Sports Car Market
   scam profile article pretty well.

   On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 7:40a-AM B Hower via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     Appears same car, two separate listings running at same time, but
     different end dates on E-bay.
     Ser# 5835A  A  A 15,000A  a|.A  A  4 days +A  ST Paul
     [3]https://www.ebay.com/itm/234987613482?hash=item36b65a6d2a:g:8lsAA
     OSwbpNkSIRk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwHs%2FqteXcRl0R5ZXfG2C0yMBowcF4L53j
     wHCEjUNRu1Fl66eAbOrQwEeEjnln6XX8nuLEbqQ0A9X%2By8VW%2BJez7MxM%2FO6ug5
     iWwcAXD1IxwkWpbkUqfnKnjNPubCF5LyXeydBx2sq6UdxELuFG1nE6QK5yF32UXSYMnu
     p9kwb0zcNAmCAdnRlaNuAFLbq%2FNGPxwCTmZiIf3Hq4aq1hSUAe%2FcmEP8N9h%2Bq2
     ec2LWZBBOTv8GncGlgL3SigGwbfhV666A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7DiyoP5YQ
     Ser# 5835A  A  A 18,000 a|..A  5 days + Prescott
     [4]https://www.ebay.com/itm/204318338024?hash=item2f92526be8:g:WWcAA
     OSwTrNkSbzo&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Dux6l1%2B%2BCu0OV%2BfHBPwlJbMOrqJN
     aa%2F2u0g%2FOxDjoWNUNF7u8ZgWC7HQ6zo4h9zS0RZ7g56DPtdkBNAX0bt1UlOWhYX%
     2BLL4uq%2B03oe3FDzRNl%2Bh9V5Dl4%2Blvzcl68g9%2BX3XFlJpfNSOxc2BU5lt4Q%
     2F71al4grrqKlabJvzD7EFjk%2BxJmYCPxFfCiLYto%2B1t5fllZ3kWVk3VCAX1qx1%2
     BJxFdGbIwrmcvUYEByLRRhXAlb9uRomDHMma9Ofl9tAblyNHXGjkRpp1QAYNoOFHje4S
     zr9ri4VJftnE8SuulDPtG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5zau4P5Y
     Bud
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References

   1. https://www.sportscarmarket.com/columns/legal-files/online-scam-dealers-multiply
   2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/234987613482?hash=item36b65a6d2a:g:8lsAAOSwbpNkSIRk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwHs%2FqteXcRl0R5ZXfG2C0yMBowcF4L53jwHCEjUNRu1Fl66eAbOrQwEeEjnln6XX8nuLEbqQ0A9X%2By8VW%2BJez7MxM%2FO6ug5iWwcAXD1IxwkWpbkUqfnKnjNPubCF5LyXeydBx2sq6UdxELuFG1nE6QK5yF32UXSYMnup9kwb0zcNAmCAdnRlaNuAFLbq%2FNGPxwCTmZiIf3Hq4aq1hSUAe%2FcmEP8N9h%2Bq2ec2LWZBBOTv8GncGlgL3SigGwbfhV666A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7DiyoP5YQ
   4. https://www.ebay.com/itm/204318338024?hash=item2f92526be8:g:WWcAAOSwTrNkSbzo&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Dux6l1%2B%2BCu0OV%2BfHBPwlJbMOrqJNaa%2F2u0g%2FOxDjoWNUNF7u8ZgWC7HQ6zo4h9zS0RZ7g56DPtdkBNAX0bt1UlOWhYX%2BLL4uq%2B03oe3FDzRNl%2Bh9V5Dl4%2Blvzcl68g9%2BX3XFlJpfNSOxc2BU5lt4Q%2F71al4grrqKlabJvzD7EFjk%2BxJmYCPxFfCiLYto%2B1t5fllZ3kWVk3VCAX1qx1%2BJxFdGbIwrmcvUYEByLRRhXAlb9uRomDHMma9Ofl9tAblyNHXGjkRpp1QAYNoOFHje4Szr9ri4VJftnE8SuulDPtG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5zau4P5Y
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