[DeTomaso] DB PMGR starter has a NEW part number

[Larry Finch]

Joe,

Yes, the high amperage feed to the starter motor can come directly from the battery.

I took my battery positive to a terminal block and all auxiliary connections such as fuse panels and alternator all attached to the same terminal strip. 

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Larry 

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> On Sep 24, 2022, at 1:35 AM, byrdjf at embarqmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?THANKS Larry (and all other replies)...
> I copy your post on the website and sent to shop manager.   The more I thought, the only and best reason I need is because "I want it...period".
> Hey, since making wiring changes are being made any way.   Is there a reason the "12v crank" could go directly to the starter and original solenoid removed.  (and 12v battery direct heavy wire of course)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 10:49 PM
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DB PMGR starter has a NEW part number
> 
> Joe,  
> 
> That is the correct part number for a permanent magnet gear reduction starter that will fit our ZF-2 transaxle. 
> 
> The application you listed is likely correct. From what I can deduce almost all Ford manual transmissions can use that starter.  
> 
> As for why you want that starter, it has more torque to start your engine, it is much lighter than the OEM starter and it is smaller and easier to install and remove past our headers. 
> 
> You will need to run a new wire from your starter solenoid to the solenoid on the PMGR starter. 
> 
> If you order from DB mention that you are retrofitting this to an older car and they will include the necessary wire
> 
> Larry 
> 
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:32 PM, byrdjf at embarqmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Would someone please remind me why I WANT a DB Electric starter vs the old type a parts store calls "fits pantera"
>> 
>> And are all sure this is the one I want.    Ford F Truck Bronco 4.9L 300 6Cyl Starter 1965-1996 3223 410-14033
>> 
>> (I need to "school" the shop that holds 5177 ransom)
>> 
>> Joseph Byrd
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 7:51 AM
>> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DB PMGR starter has a NEW part number
>> 
>> Larry, and all,
>> 
>> Stephane Bergeron just told me:
>> 
>> ? Thanks, this ref is for the std starter, and for the hi-torque the new ref is 410-14033.?
>> 
>> I?m just the messenger?.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2022, at 14:28, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?All,
>>> 
>>> Just called DB Electrical to order a new PMGR starter, as my old unit seems to be acting up just a little bit. Better to be cautious than roll the dice on it not failing.
>>> 
>>> The old part number I had on file was 3223. In my lengthy discussion with a very pleasant sales clerk, it appears the correct number WAS 323?3223. 
>>> 
>>> She finally managed to track down the correct starter and it now 
>>> carries their new part number of 410-14108
>>> 
>>> You?re welcome. 
>>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. 
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