[DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 3 11:21:56 EDT 2022


Will, are you old enough to remember when the RadarRange (microwave ovens) first came out?  They weighed about 500#, cost about $500., and everyone said that they gave off electronic "waves" that would cause cancer at the very least, and kill you in a short amount of time.

You heard it here first:  These modern "ultra-lithium" car batteries are in the same category.  Being that close to such large batteries will affect you in a short time.

Tell your buddy, "Good luck!"      ---Bill L
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 9:12 PM
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>; Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

Well put Larry.

Note - a close friend bought a Tesla Model S.  He absolutely loves it.  I'm not a fan.  No soul.

I told him that I saw a study that estimated that an electric vehicle emits about 80% of the CO2 as a gasoline engine during its lifetime.  It didn't go into the environmental hazards/costs/range/etc.  It just focused on CO2 emissions.

He said, "What do you mean?  My car doesn't emit any CO2."
I said, "What about the electricity?"
He said, "I just plug it into the wall."
I said, "Where do you think it comes from?"
He said, "I don't know.  The wall?"

Complete disconnect...  I explained that the electricity has to be generated somewhere.  In South Florida, most electricity is generated from natural gas, plus we have a nuclear plant.

Some areas get most of their electricity from coal.  So, their electric cars really run on coal.

Nationwide we produce electricity from these sources:  38.3% natural gas, 21.8% coal, 18.9% nuclear, 9.2% wind, 6.3% hydro (dams), 2.8% solar.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Will.


On 9/2/22, 4:57 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Stock" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

    I think Electric cars have their place in society just like Trucks and golf carts do.
    Larry

    On 9/2/22, 1:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:

           I think electric cars are the way of the future, for better or worse,
           due to governmental regulation. I hate my cars being demonized by these
           arrogant "holier than thou" hypocrites, personally, although at some
           point I do plan to get an electric car just to get used to it. I think
           as commuter cars for going to work they are great and that is about it.
           I still recall about a year ago the pissed off looks a Tesla driving
           dude was giving me when my now dead truck was idling nicely with the
           exhaust perfectly placed near his open window at a stoplight. The V8
           being a straight pipe the noise was an added factor for Konrad enjoying
           himself being a total ass :)

           On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:42 PM Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
           wrote:

             A  A Yes, I see that often now, there's a proliferation of Tesla's
             here in
             A  A Reno with the Gigafactory close by.
             A  A I drove my first Tesla about a month ago in Montreal, rental
             cars were
             A  A in high demand, and all they had available was a Tesla 3. Once
             I
             A  A figured out the card (key) swipe to make it work it was easy. I
             have to
             A  A say that rush and pinning to the seat as you press the go pedal
             hard is
             A  A exhilarating, but (and it's a big butt) everything else was
             just
             A  A boring, there is literally nothing else to get excited about,
             it has no
             A  A soul, it gets you from A to B in a utilitarian there's an 'app
             for
             A  A that' kind of way. On the interaction side I found it annoying
             more
             A  A than anything (in a kind of nagging wife way) and I ended up
             navigating
             A  A using my iPhone for a more direct route.
             A  A So, to answer your question, I think it's more of a case of the
             only
             A  A pleasure one can derive from driving a Tesla is the
             instantaneous
             A  A torque away from the lights, after that the battery efficiency
             warning
             A  A light comes on and one is chastised into fictitiously saving
             the planet
             A  A once more.
             A  A Julian
             A  A
             A __________________________________________________________________
             A  A From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
             behalf of
             A  A Corey Price <[3]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
             A  A Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:52 PM
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             A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???
             A  A So reading about Konrad's unfortunate experience, he mentioned
             A  A something about Tesla drivers. I have had multiple Tesla
             drivers
             A  A wanting to race me since I got my Pantera on the street. The
             first one
             A  A was interesting and I let him go, not wanting to race on the
             street.
             A  A The next few got annoying and I wanted nothing to do with that.
             I'll
             A  A enjoy my car the way I want to, thank you. Anyone else
             experienced this
             A  A sudden desire of Tesla owners to race you?
             A  A Corey
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   Will, are you old enough to remember when the RadarRange (microwave
   ovens) first came out?  They weighed about 500#, cost about $500., and
   everyone said that they gave off electronic "waves" that would cause
   cancer at the very least, and kill you in a short amount of time.

   You heard it here first:  These modern "ultra-lithium" car batteries
   are in the same category.  Being that close to such large batteries
   will affect you in a short time.

   Tell your buddy, "Good luck!"      ---Bill L
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 9:12 PM
   To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>; Konrad Szwab
   <kszwab at gmail.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

   Well put Larry.
   Note - a close friend bought a Tesla Model S.  He absolutely loves it.
   I'm not a fan.  No soul.
   I told him that I saw a study that estimated that an electric vehicle
   emits about 80% of the CO2 as a gasoline engine during its lifetime.
   It didn't go into the environmental hazards/costs/range/etc.  It just
   focused on CO2 emissions.
   He said, "What do you mean?  My car doesn't emit any CO2."
   I said, "What about the electricity?"
   He said, "I just plug it into the wall."
   I said, "Where do you think it comes from?"
   He said, "I don't know.  The wall?"
   Complete disconnect...  I explained that the electricity has to be
   generated somewhere.  In South Florida, most electricity is generated
   from natural gas, plus we have a nuclear plant.
   Some areas get most of their electricity from coal.  So, their electric
   cars really run on coal.
   Nationwide we produce electricity from these sources:  38.3% natural
   gas, 21.8% coal, 18.9% nuclear, 9.2% wind, 6.3% hydro (dams), 2.8%
   solar.
   [1]https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
   Will.
   On 9/2/22, 4:57 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Stock"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
       I think Electric cars have their place in society just like Trucks
   and golf carts do.
       Larry
       On 9/2/22, 1:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
              I think electric cars are the way of the future, for better
   or worse,
              due to governmental regulation. I hate my cars being
   demonized by these
              arrogant "holier than thou" hypocrites, personally, although
   at some
              point I do plan to get an electric car just to get used to
   it. I think
              as commuter cars for going to work they are great and that
   is about it.
              I still recall about a year ago the pissed off looks a Tesla
   driving
              dude was giving me when my now dead truck was idling nicely
   with the
              exhaust perfectly placed near his open window at a
   stoplight. The V8
              being a straight pipe the noise was an added factor for
   Konrad enjoying
              himself being a total ass :)
              On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:42 PM Julian Kift
   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
              wrote:
                A  A Yes, I see that often now, there's a proliferation of
   Tesla's
                here in
                A  A Reno with the Gigafactory close by.
                A  A I drove my first Tesla about a month ago in Montreal,
   rental
                cars were
                A  A in high demand, and all they had available was a
   Tesla 3. Once
                I
                A  A figured out the card (key) swipe to make it work it
   was easy. I
                have to
                A  A say that rush and pinning to the seat as you press
   the go pedal
                hard is
                A  A exhilarating, but (and it's a big butt) everything
   else was
                just
                A  A boring, there is literally nothing else to get
   excited about,
                it has no
                A  A soul, it gets you from A to B in a utilitarian
   there's an 'app
                for
                A  A that' kind of way. On the interaction side I found it
   annoying
                more
                A  A than anything (in a kind of nagging wife way) and I
   ended up
                navigating
                A  A using my iPhone for a more direct route.
                A  A So, to answer your question, I think it's more of a
   case of the
                only
                A  A pleasure one can derive from driving a Tesla is the
                instantaneous
                A  A torque away from the lights, after that the battery
   efficiency
                warning
                A  A light comes on and one is chastised into fictitiously
   saving
                the planet
                A  A once more.
                A  A Julian
                A  A
                A
   __________________________________________________________________
                A  A From: DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
                behalf of
                A  A Corey Price <[3]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
                A  A Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:52 PM
                A  A To: Detomaso List
   <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
                A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???
                A  A So reading about Konrad's unfortunate experience, he
   mentioned
                A  A something about Tesla drivers. I have had multiple
   Tesla
                drivers
                A  A wanting to race me since I got my Pantera on the
   street. The
                first one
                A  A was interesting and I let him go, not wanting to race
   on the
                street.
                A  A The next few got annoying and I wanted nothing to do
   with that.
                I'll
                A  A enjoy my car the way I want to, thank you. Anyone
   else
                experienced this
                A  A sudden desire of Tesla owners to race you?
                A  A Corey
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