[DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

Jerry Knotts knottsj at galstar.com
Fri Sep 2 18:27:06 EDT 2022


I guess if you live in California your just schedule your charging 
around the rolling black and brown outs.

The electric companies can't compete with poor forest management for 
carbon release in Cal.

YMMV

jerry knotts

On 9/2/2022 4:12 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
> Well put Larry.
>
> Note - a close friend bought a Tesla Model S.  He absolutely loves it.  I'm not a fan.  No soul.
>
> I told him that I saw a study that estimated that an electric vehicle emits about 80% of the CO2 as a gasoline engine during its lifetime.  It didn't go into the environmental hazards/costs/range/etc.  It just focused on CO2 emissions.
>
> He said, "What do you mean?  My car doesn't emit any CO2."
> I said, "What about the electricity?"
> He said, "I just plug it into the wall."
> I said, "Where do you think it comes from?"
> He said, "I don't know.  The wall?"
>
> Complete disconnect...  I explained that the electricity has to be generated somewhere.  In South Florida, most electricity is generated from natural gas, plus we have a nuclear plant.
>
> Some areas get most of their electricity from coal.  So, their electric cars really run on coal.
>
> Nationwide we produce electricity from these sources:  38.3% natural gas, 21.8% coal, 18.9% nuclear, 9.2% wind, 6.3% hydro (dams), 2.8% solar.
>
> https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
>
> Will.
>
>
> On 9/2/22, 4:57 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Stock" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>
>      I think Electric cars have their place in society just like Trucks and golf carts do.
>      Larry
>
>      On 9/2/22, 1:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             I think electric cars are the way of the future, for better or worse,
>             due to governmental regulation. I hate my cars being demonized by these
>             arrogant "holier than thou" hypocrites, personally, although at some
>             point I do plan to get an electric car just to get used to it. I think
>             as commuter cars for going to work they are great and that is about it.
>             I still recall about a year ago the pissed off looks a Tesla driving
>             dude was giving me when my now dead truck was idling nicely with the
>             exhaust perfectly placed near his open window at a stoplight. The V8
>             being a straight pipe the noise was an added factor for Konrad enjoying
>             himself being a total ass :)
>
>             On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:42 PM Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>             wrote:
>
>               A  A Yes, I see that often now, there's a proliferation of Tesla's
>               here in
>               A  A Reno with the Gigafactory close by.
>               A  A I drove my first Tesla about a month ago in Montreal, rental
>               cars were
>               A  A in high demand, and all they had available was a Tesla 3. Once
>               I
>               A  A figured out the card (key) swipe to make it work it was easy. I
>               have to
>               A  A say that rush and pinning to the seat as you press the go pedal
>               hard is
>               A  A exhilarating, but (and it's a big butt) everything else was
>               just
>               A  A boring, there is literally nothing else to get excited about,
>               it has no
>               A  A soul, it gets you from A to B in a utilitarian there's an 'app
>               for
>               A  A that' kind of way. On the interaction side I found it annoying
>               more
>               A  A than anything (in a kind of nagging wife way) and I ended up
>               navigating
>               A  A using my iPhone for a more direct route.
>               A  A So, to answer your question, I think it's more of a case of the
>               only
>               A  A pleasure one can derive from driving a Tesla is the
>               instantaneous
>               A  A torque away from the lights, after that the battery efficiency
>               warning
>               A  A light comes on and one is chastised into fictitiously saving
>               the planet
>               A  A once more.
>               A  A Julian
>               A  A
>               A __________________________________________________________________
>               A  A From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>               behalf of
>               A  A Corey Price <[3]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>               A  A Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:52 PM
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>               A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???
>               A  A So reading about Konrad's unfortunate experience, he mentioned
>               A  A something about Tesla drivers. I have had multiple Tesla
>               drivers
>               A  A wanting to race me since I got my Pantera on the street. The
>               first one
>               A  A was interesting and I let him go, not wanting to race on the
>               street.
>               A  A The next few got annoying and I wanted nothing to do with that.
>               I'll
>               A  A enjoy my car the way I want to, thank you. Anyone else
>               experienced this
>               A  A sudden desire of Tesla owners to race you?
>               A  A Corey
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