[DeTomaso] $67,500 Pantera on ebay

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 29 01:57:56 EDT 2022 

With all due respect, I'm not sure what relevance their purchase price has on the current value, they are in business to make a profit. The question is what it is worth in the current market and that is best determined with a full PPI, and then it is to be seen whether that price can be negotiated.

I purchased my first Pantera from Gullwing, I have no complaints. It had some damage, and I asked enough questions and got detailed photos to know what I was buying and negotiated a price I thought was fair market value. Gullwing were accommodating, open and honest in that transaction, in fact one could probably cite as many if not more purchases at major collector auctions that have resulted in bitter disappointment than those from Gullwing. Bottom feeders have a place, mostly in Scottsdale....

Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] $67,500 Pantera on ebay

Agree. Run the opposite direction while pausing setting up Claymore’s

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> On Oct 28, 2022, at 2:42 PM, MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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> These guys are the worst of the worst of bottom feeders, along with Beverley Hills Car Club. They probably paid $25k for it!
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> Mike
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>> On Oct 28, 2022, at 13:03, Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote:
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>> Gullwing Motors has a long history of selling cars that are in VERY bad condition.  Chances are there is significant rust.
>>
>>
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>>>> On 10/28/2022 1:48 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:
>>>   Seems priced low:
>>>   [1]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F275511694159&data=05%7C01%7C%7C821dd35dd96e4343f4d408dab92f64da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638025910477844843%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=msH9N%2FbbVVwHUDLpUrZ4tkrDDWQjDFJvbwylNXkSHn4%3D&reserved=0
>>>   Is the economy pushing priced down?
>>>
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   With all due respect, I'm not sure what relevance their purchase price
   has on the current value, they are in business to make a profit. The
   question is what it is worth in the current market and that is best
   determined with a full PPI, and then it is to be seen whether that
   price can be negotiated.

   I purchased my first Pantera from Gullwing, I have no complaints. It
   had some damage, and I asked enough questions and got detailed photos
   to know what I was buying and negotiated a price I thought was fair
   market value. Gullwing were accommodating, open and honest in that
   transaction, in fact one could probably cite as many if not more
   purchases at major collector auctions that have resulted in bitter
   disappointment than those from Gullwing. Bottom feeders have a place,
   mostly in Scottsdale....

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Mark Peterson via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 2:57 PM
   To: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
   Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] $67,500 Pantera on ebay

   Agree. Run the opposite direction while pausing setting up Claymore's
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On Oct 28, 2022, at 2:42 PM, MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   > These guys are the worst of the worst of bottom feeders, along with
   Beverley Hills Car Club. They probably paid $25k for it!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >> On Oct 28, 2022, at 13:03, Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> Gullwing Motors has a long history of selling cars that are in VERY
   bad condition.  Chances are there is significant rust.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>>> On 10/28/2022 1:48 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:
   >>>   Seems priced low:
   >>>
   [1]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
   w.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F275511694159&data=05%7C01%7C%7C821dd35dd96e4343f
   4d408dab92f64da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6380259104
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   LpUrZ4tkrDDWQjDFJvbwylNXkSHn4%3D&reserved=0
   >>>   Is the economy pushing priced down?
   >>>
   >>> References
   >>>
   >>>   1.
   [1]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
   w.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F275511694159&data=05%7C01%7C%7C821dd35dd96e4343f
   4d408dab92f64da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6380259104
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