[DeTomaso] Klippan seat belt replacement

Tue Oct 18 19:45:44 EDT 2022

Hi Frank,

That klippan belt looks like it may work. It depends on the width of the spool and if it will fit between the flanges of the stock mount on the bulkhead behind the seat. I suppose you could cut those flanges off, but I chose not to do that. Also, the buckle end may need some sort of support so it doesn’t fall between the seat and the console. 

Also, you asked about the mounting of the fixed end. I may not have been clear in my explanation.  The stock lap belt spool bolts to the under side of the mounting plate on the door threshold.  I simply used that bolt to fasten the fixed end of the new belt. 

Best,

Dennis Valdez

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dennis,
>  
> Thank you for the information and installation details you provided it was most helpful. 
>  
> Did you see this belt?  What do you think? 
> https://en.klippan.fi/product/85/3p-belt-elr-3000mm--200mm-b-buckle
>  
> I sent an email asking for more info.  I will post it once I receive a response. 
>  
> Frank
> #6228
>  
> From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:38 PM
> To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Klippan seat belt replacement
>  
> Hi Frank,
> I just went through this exercise.  I tried three different venders and found one that would fit from SeatBeltsPlus.com (for some reason my previous response didn't go through)
>  
> Part number AC12
>  
> https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/product/AC12.html
> 
> You will need to remove the plastic cover that comes with the retractor spool and it will fit within the flanges on the bracket on the bulkhead behind the seats.   Since the spool is larger than stock, you will need to either modify your existing covers, or fabricate new ones out of Sheet metal.  I was able to make covers on my 3D printer that have the right profile and of the right size.
>  
> The fixed end of the seatbelt will mount under the rocker plate.  If you don't want to cut your original seatbelt to remove the plate, you will need to source replacements.  I was able to get a couple from Mike Mayberry.  I also used a bracket used in baby seats to shorten the seatbelt under the rocker plate to make the new belt shorter, so it would retract faster.
>  
> On the receiver buckle side, I suggest getting the hardware kit from seatbeltplus to allow the buckle to rest in the proper position without twisting the stiff cable.  
>  
> I ( and my wife) are very happy with the results!
>  
> Regards,
> Dennis
>  
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 09:23:55 AM PDT, Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net> wrote:
>  
>  
>   Hi All,
>  
>  
>   Is there a modern replacement for a 1974 late model "L" seat belt?
>  
>  
>   Mine are the original Klippan with two retractors one at the fire wall
>   and one at the floor and a short stationary latch belt bolted to the
>   floor by the consol.  I want to keep the original seat belt style and
>   function, however it is time for and upgrade to modern materials.
>  
>  
>   Many Thanks
>  
>   Frank Lisi
>  
>   #6228
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   Hi Frank,

   That klippan belt looks like it may work. It depends on the width of
   the spool and if it will fit between the flanges of the stock mount on
   the bulkhead behind the seat. I suppose you could cut those flanges
   off, but I chose not to do that. Also, the buckle end may need some
   sort of support so it doesn't fall between the seat and the console.

   Also, you asked about the mounting of the fixed end. I may not have
   been clear in my explanation.  The stock lap belt spool bolts to the
   under side of the mounting plate on the door threshold.  I simply used
   that bolt to fasten the fixed end of the new belt.
   Best,
   Dennis Valdez

     On Oct 17, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>
     wrote:

   Dennis,

   Thank you for the information and installation details you provided it
   was most helpful.

   Did you see this belt?  What do you think?

   [1]https://en.klippan.fi/product/85/3p-belt-elr-3000mm--200mm-b-buckle

   I sent an email asking for more info.  I will post it once I receive a
   response.

   Frank

   #6228

   From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   Date: Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:38 PM
   To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Klippan seat belt replacement

   Hi Frank,

   I just went through this exercise.  I tried three different venders and
   found one that would fit from SeatBeltsPlus.com (for some reason my
   previous response didn't go through)

   Part number AC12

   https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/product/AC12.html

   You will need to remove the plastic cover that comes with the retractor
   spool and it will fit within the flanges on the bracket on the bulkhead
   behind the seats.   Since the spool is larger than stock, you will need
   to either modify your existing covers, or fabricate new ones out of
   Sheet metal.  I was able to make covers on my 3D printer that have the
   right profile and of the right size.

   The fixed end of the seatbelt will mount under the rocker plate.  If
   you don't want to cut your original seatbelt to remove the plate, you
   will need to source replacements.  I was able to get a couple from Mike
   Mayberry.  I also used a bracket used in baby seats to shorten the
   seatbelt under the rocker plate to make the new belt shorter, so it
   would retract faster.

   On the receiver buckle side, I suggest getting the hardware kit from
   seatbeltplus to allow the buckle to rest in the proper position without
   twisting the stiff cable.

   I ( and my wife) are very happy with the results!

   Regards,

   Dennis

   On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 09:23:55 AM PDT, Frank Lisi
   <fjlisi at mediacombb.net> wrote:

     Hi All,

     Is there a modern replacement for a 1974 late model "L" seat belt?

     Mine are the original Klippan with two retractors one at the fire
   wall

     and one at the floor and a short stationary latch belt bolted to the

     floor by the consol.  I want to keep the original seat belt style and

     function, however it is time for and upgrade to modern materials.

     Many Thanks

     Frank Lisi

     #6228

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