[DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63
Bill Lewis
lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 17 09:23:40 EST 2022
Excellent Mike! So, now there will be hours and hours of meetings to get this "Right" for the future.
I'm 81 years old, so I filter everything through "how does age affect this" thinking. That's why successful fighter pilots are young-age kids.
Isn't there a fairly young must-retire age for commercial pilots? I can surely understand this.
Thoughts and prayers for all who are touched by this!
________________________________
From: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 10:02 PM
To: The Goyaniuks <andriykoisg at yahoo.ca>
Cc: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63
All,
Juan Browne has one of the best YouTube channels for laymen aviation enthusiasts. Coincidentally we first met when we flew together in the Air Force 31 years ago and he also flies for American Airlines now.
He did a great analysis of the situation which you can see here:
https://youtu.be/C342dfNPCyg
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 16, 2022, at 09:52, The Goyaniuks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A very very sad aircraft collision.
The loss of life is tragic.
Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual
contact of the B-17.
The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside of the display
"race track".
The video appears to show that the P-63 was inside and tight of the
track on the approach to the display line..
As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the
wing - severing the B-17.
The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The
B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the
"Mighty" 8th AF.
B. Goyaniuk
Pilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most:
"What
caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?"
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Christopher Kimball <[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:18 PM
To: MICHAEL DREW <[3]mikeldrew at aol.com>
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<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney
<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when Milk
Duds were 5 cents per box...:)"
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From: MICHAEL DREW <[7]mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM
To: Christopher Kimball <[8]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Cc: Lashdeep Singh <[9]lashdeep at yahoo.com>;
[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
Dan Courtney <[12]dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Chris,
True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive
compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights
were
that much or more at one time....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball
<[13]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't
cheap!
Chris
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
smartphone
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From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Lashdeep Singh <[15]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney
<[17]dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Lashdeep,
Check out this page:
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The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One important
consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are
much
deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera
headlight
bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right
into
any classic car, so they will fit.....
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso
<[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is
reasonably priced?
Thanks
On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney
<[20]dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to Halogen
or
LED?
Dan
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Excellent Mike! So, now there will be hours and hours of meetings to
get this "Right" for the future.
I'm 81 years old, so I filter everything through "how does age affect
this" thinking. That's why successful fighter pilots are young-age
kids.
Isn't there a fairly young must-retire age for commercial pilots? I
can surely understand this.
Thoughts and prayers for all who are touched by this!
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From: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 10:02 PM
To: The Goyaniuks <andriykoisg at yahoo.ca>
Cc: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63
All,
Juan Browne has one of the best YouTube channels for laymen aviation
enthusiasts. Coincidentally we first met when we flew together in the
Air Force 31 years ago and he also flies for American Airlines now.
He did a great analysis of the situation which you can see here:
[1]https://youtu.be/C342dfNPCyg
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 16, 2022, at 09:52, The Goyaniuks via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A very very sad aircraft collision.
The loss of life is tragic.
Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual
contact of the B-17.
The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside of the display
"race track".
The video appears to show that the P-63 was inside and tight of the
track on the approach to the display line..
As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the
wing - severing the B-17.
The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The
B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the
"Mighty" 8th AF.
B. Goyaniuk
Pilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most:
"What
caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?"
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<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when
Milk
Duds were 5 cents per box...:)"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM
To: Christopher Kimball <[8]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Chris,
True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive
compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights
were
that much or more at one time....
Mike
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On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball
<[13]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't
cheap!
Chris
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Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Lashdeep Singh <[15]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Lashdeep,
Check out this page:
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The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One important
consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are
much
deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera
headlight
bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right
into
any classic car, so they will fit.....
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso
<[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is
reasonably priced?
Thanks
On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney
<[20]dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to Halogen
or
LED?
Dan
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