[DeTomaso] Daytona Update

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Sat Nov 5 21:58:26 EDT 2022


Hi Steve, 
Sorry to hear.  In jest I would say it was because you weren’t running a ZF.  But seriously I hope you find out what it was.

You had a good run this go around and I’d bet plenty of people were thrilled with the performance on track at least up to the end.

I enjoy hearing how you, Tony, and the Pantera are doing.

Asa  Jay

Sent via radio waves

> On Nov 5, 2022, at 18:37, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry guys, We are done.  
> 
> The Quaife started overheating on the second lap and I stopped on lap 6-7 when it started spewing tranny fluid out the overflow onto the rear window.   
> 
> We don't know enough to identify what changed between session 1 and session 2.  Our temp markers (we don't have a tranny temp gauge) indicated it got to 290 degrees during Tony's race, even though we have a huge cooler on it, then sat and heat soaked for 5 hours.   Something changed in that period.  The gearbox was immediately difficult to shift and the decided not to shift at all.  
> 
> 
> Sorry guys, we hoped to do better.  This is a bummer weekend. 
> 
> 
> We have a long trip home.  
> 
> 
> We are done, I will let you know more 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com 
> Direct: 480-442-0297
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>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 8:53 PM Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>> Thumbs up, glad to hear it’s going well.
>> 
>> Asa  Jay
>> 
>> Sent via radio waves
>> 
>> > On Nov 5, 2022, at 13:34, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >    Stage 1 done, started last and moved up a bit.A  Tony drove moderately
>> >   hard, turned our fastest lap of the weekend, we put in 5 gallons at the
>> >   pit stop, and he finished moderately hard.A  We did 18 laps, and pumped
>> >   8.5 gallons out when we were done.A  So, we didn't need to fuel.A  We
>> >   had 3.5 gallons left.A  So we will just pit and sit for our mandatory
>> >   three minutes.
>> >   Regards,A
>> >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>> >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>> >   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
>> >   Direct:A 480-442-0297
>> >   [1]www.PatentIt.com
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>> >   On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 3:10 PM Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Steve,
>> >     A  A  A  A  A  A Egad.A  Your predicament makes current vintage
>> >     racing resemble a chess game!.A  Who knew it was so complicated?A
>> >     A  A  A  A  A  A Good luck.
>> >     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck
>> >     Engles
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>> >     On Behalf Of Steve Lisa
>> >     Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 8:33 AM
>> >     To: Scott Couchman
>> >     Cc: MICHAEL DREW; List DeTomaso Forum
>> >     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
>> >     An interesting strategy issue came up.A  Our 19 gallon fuel cell
>> >     actually (due to foam) only holds 18.5 gallons.A  We are burning
>> >     "about" 1 gallon per lap on average through the first 5 sessions of
>> >     the weekend.A  And, at our race pace, we will run at.most 19 laps in
>> >     a session (with no cautions etc).
>> >     We have a mandatory 3 minute pit stop each leg of the 24-hour, and
>> >     the driver has to get out of the car for fueling.A  There is about
>> >     40 seconds of pit lane "in-out" time, leaving about 2:20 for driver
>> >     to stop, exit, the crew to fuel, and the driver to get back in, belt
>> >     up and get going.A  The Pantera is not set up for a dump can (as was
>> >     not intended to run this 24-hour event).A  It's a very slow fuel.A
>> >     Plus, the driver cant be getting in the car while the crew is
>> >     fueling.A  Since I have issued at my age getting in over the driver
>> >     bars and reaching belts etc., we figure I will need an extra 60-90
>> >     seconds over the 3 minutes for an old fart like me to get out/back
>> >     in the car and buckled up and going, in addition to fueling even a
>> >     few gallons, plus pit in/out time. In short, we will lose the
>> >     equivalent of average 4-5 seconds in average lap time for the
>> >     session due to a pit stop over 3 minutes when I am driving.
>> >     If we run our race pace, we will run 19.5 laps, surely running out
>> >     of fuel if we don't add fuel at the stop.A  If we slow down 3
>> >     seconds a lap we will run 18 laps, and we should make it.A  If we
>> >     get a yellow, we are good.
>> >     Our current decision is to run the first session at a reduced pace
>> >     and not fuel it during the 3 minute stop, hopefully making it
>> >     through with gas/car preservation mode.A  Then, we will see what gas
>> >     we have left after the first session (if we don't run out).A  Even
>> >     if we run out, we will lose at me at one lap ...less then screwing
>> >     around with me getting in and out.
>> >     But, our best guess is that we should make it, the car will be
>> >     happier at the slower pace, and we will learn as we go, adjusting
>> >     for the next three sessions if we continue to make it.
>> >     On my son' Tony's stints, he can get in and out way faster than me,
>> >     so we can cut him loose a bit and actually throw a few gallons in
>> >     the car at the mandatory pit and not lose time.
>> >     I guess that's another reason to go on a diet and start doing yoga.
>> >     It's been fun trying to figure out last minute the move from the
>> >     sprint races to the 24.
>> >     The guys that finished this year at LeMans we're actually an
>> >     inspiration for us moving the car to the 24.A  It was an amazing run
>> >     for them.A  We hope to have good news tomorrow...
>> >     Regards,
>> >     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>> >     The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>> >     Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>> >     Direct: 480-442-0297
>> >     [4]www.PatentIt.com
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>> >>     On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 8:28 AM Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
>> >>     [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> >> Mike, Thanks for setting the record straight, and congratulations
>> >     to
>> >> these winners!
>> >> 
>> >>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 8:36 PM, MICHAEL DREW <[6]mikeldrew at aol.com>
>> >     wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> i>>?a|and in fact, these guys:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> came in FIRST IN CLASS at Le Mans Classic this year, in a
>> >     factory
>> >>> Gr4
>> >> car.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Since the event started in 2004, far more than half the Panteras
>> >>> entered
>> >> have finished each year, on average. So it is highly disrespectful
>> >     of
>> >> their collective efforts to claim that none have ever finished at
>> >     all.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>> 
>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 22:15, MICHAEL DREW <[7]mikeldrew at aol.com>
>> >     wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> i>>?Scott,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> You need to pay more attention! Plenty of Panteras have
>> >     finished at
>> >>>> LMC
>> >> including this year.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 18:24, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
>> >> [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> i>>?All the LeMans Classics Iave attended, as far as I know,
>> >     no
>> >>>>> Pantera
>> >> has finished the entire event. I hope you have much better
>> >     success!
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Mike & Elizabeth
>> >>>>>>> <[9]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> i>>?Good luck!A  Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
>> >>>>>> Mike Thomas
>> >>>>>> Panteras Northwest
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: DeTomaso <[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >     On
>> >>>>>> Behalf
>> >> Of Steve Lisa
>> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 10:50 AM
>> >>>>>> To: List DeTomaso Forum
>> >     <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> All,
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> We have called the Pantera up to run the 24-hour race, taking
>> >     the
>> >> place of the Panoz.A  We were having issues with the new Panoz
>> >     motor,
>> >> and the motor finally let fo.A  So, are here and going to run the
>> >> Pantera in the Classic 24-hour instead.
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> The Pantera has already run 5 sessions this weekend in the
>> >     HSR
>> >>>>>> Sprint
>> >> races, with it's fasted time at 2:11.5.A  Because we didn't run
>> >     the
>> >> qualifying events for the Classic 24-hour event we will be
>> >     starting
>> >> from the back of Group A (pre-73, early FIA Group 3 and 4 cars, I
>> >> believe in the GTO class) for the Classic 24, which is fine for a
>> >     long
>> >> event.A  We will be driving conservatively with goal of finishing
>> >     the event.
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> In addition, Goodwood sent some reporters over from England
>> >     to
>> >>>>>> cover
>> >> the Daytona event.A  They enjoyed seeing the Pantera race, and
>> >     filmed
>> >> the car on track and a fun 15 minute interview about the car.A
>> >> Goodwood also mounted an in-car camera for the upcoming 24-hour
>> >     race.A
>> >> They are planning a short feature on the Pantera, which is really
>> >     nice
>> >> of them, but who knows if it will ever get done.
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Anyway, I will post updates and results starting tomorrow.A
>> >     There
>> >>>>>> are
>> >> six groups, so we rotate out every six hours (i.e., four one-hour
>> >> races every six hours).
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Fingers crossed.....we are asked a lot from the car.
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>> >>>>>> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>> >>>>>> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>> >>>>>> Direct: 480-442-0297
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   Hi Steve,

   Sorry to hear.  In jest I would say it was because you weren't running
   a ZF.  But seriously I hope you find out what it was.

   You had a good run this go around and I'd bet plenty of people were
   thrilled with the performance on track at least up to the end.

   I enjoy hearing how you, Tony, and the Pantera are doing.

   Asa  Jay
   Sent via radio waves

     On Nov 5, 2022, at 18:37, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:

   Sorry guys, We are done.
   The Quaife started overheating on the second lap and I stopped on lap
   6-7 when it started spewing tranny fluid out the overflow onto the rear
   window.
   We don't know enough to identify what changed between session 1 and
   session 2.  Our temp markers (we don't have a tranny temp gauge)
   indicated it got to 290 degrees during Tony's race, even though we have
   a huge cooler on it, then sat and heat soaked for 5 hours.   Something
   changed in that period.  The gearbox was immediately difficult to shift
   and the decided not to shift at all.
   Sorry guys, we hoped to do better.  This is a bummer weekend.
   We have a long trip home.
   We are done, I will let you know more
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [1]www.PatentIt.com
   Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656  |  F: 480.535.6628  |  A: 7689
   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
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   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.
   On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 8:53 PM Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:

     Thumbs up, glad to hear it's going well.
     Asa  Jay
     Sent via radio waves
     > On Nov 5, 2022, at 13:34, Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >    Stage 1 done, started last and moved up a bit.A  Tony drove
     moderately
     >   hard, turned our fastest lap of the weekend, we put in 5 gallons
     at the
     >   pit stop, and he finished moderately hard.A  We did 18 laps, and
     pumped
     >   8.5 gallons out when we were done.A  So, we didn't need to
     fuel.A  We
     >   had 3.5 gallons left.A  So we will just pit and sit for our
     mandatory
     >   three minutes.
     >   Regards,A
     >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
     >   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
     >   Direct:A 480-442-0297
     >   [1][4]www.PatentIt.com
     >   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
     >   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
     >   Chicago OfficeA |A P:A 312.752.4357A  |A A F:A 312.896.5633A
     >   |A A A:A 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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     contain
     >   confidential and privileged information. If you received this
     email in
     >   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
     Thank
     >   you.
     >
     >   On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 3:10 PM Charles Engles
     <[2][5]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
     >
     >     Dear Steve,
     >     A  A  A  A  A  A Egad.A  Your predicament makes current
     vintage
     >     racing resemble a chess game!.A  Who knew it was so
     complicated?A
     >     A  A  A  A  A  A Good luck.
     >     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,
     Chuck
     >     Engles
     >     -----Original Message-----
     >     From: DeTomaso
     [mailto:[3][6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     >     On Behalf Of Steve Lisa
     >     Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 8:33 AM
     >     To: Scott Couchman
     >     Cc: MICHAEL DREW; List DeTomaso Forum
     >     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
     >     An interesting strategy issue came up.A  Our 19 gallon fuel
     cell
     >     actually (due to foam) only holds 18.5 gallons.A  We are
     burning
     >     "about" 1 gallon per lap on average through the first 5
     sessions of
     >     the weekend.A  And, at our race pace, we will run at.most 19
     laps in
     >     a session (with no cautions etc).
     >     We have a mandatory 3 minute pit stop each leg of the 24-hour,
     and
     >     the driver has to get out of the car for fueling.A  There is
     about
     >     40 seconds of pit lane "in-out" time, leaving about 2:20 for
     driver
     >     to stop, exit, the crew to fuel, and the driver to get back
     in, belt
     >     up and get going.A  The Pantera is not set up for a dump can
     (as was
     >     not intended to run this 24-hour event).A  It's a very slow
     fuel.A
     >     Plus, the driver cant be getting in the car while the crew is
     >     fueling.A  Since I have issued at my age getting in over the
     driver
     >     bars and reaching belts etc., we figure I will need an extra
     60-90
     >     seconds over the 3 minutes for an old fart like me to get
     out/back
     >     in the car and buckled up and going, in addition to fueling
     even a
     >     few gallons, plus pit in/out time. In short, we will lose the
     >     equivalent of average 4-5 seconds in average lap time for the
     >     session due to a pit stop over 3 minutes when I am driving.
     >     If we run our race pace, we will run 19.5 laps, surely running
     out
     >     of fuel if we don't add fuel at the stop.A  If we slow down 3
     >     seconds a lap we will run 18 laps, and we should make it.A  If
     we
     >     get a yellow, we are good.
     >     Our current decision is to run the first session at a reduced
     pace
     >     and not fuel it during the 3 minute stop, hopefully making it
     >     through with gas/car preservation mode.A  Then, we will see
     what gas
     >     we have left after the first session (if we don't run out).A
     Even
     >     if we run out, we will lose at me at one lap ...less then
     screwing
     >     around with me getting in and out.
     >     But, our best guess is that we should make it, the car will be
     >     happier at the slower pace, and we will learn as we go,
     adjusting
     >     for the next three sessions if we continue to make it.
     >     On my son' Tony's stints, he can get in and out way faster
     than me,
     >     so we can cut him loose a bit and actually throw a few gallons
     in
     >     the car at the mandatory pit and not lose time.
     >     I guess that's another reason to go on a diet and start doing
     yoga.
     >     It's been fun trying to figure out last minute the move from
     the
     >     sprint races to the 24.
     >     The guys that finished this year at LeMans we're actually an
     >     inspiration for us moving the car to the 24.A  It was an
     amazing run
     >     for them.A  We hope to have good news tomorrow...
     >     Regards,
     >     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     >     The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
     >     Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
     >     Direct: 480-442-0297
     >     [4][7]www.PatentIt.com
     >     Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A  |A  F: 480.535.6628A
     |A  A:
     >     7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
     >     Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A
     A: 55
     >     E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
     >     This email is intended only for the recipient above and may
     contain
     >     confidential and privileged information. If you received this
     email
     >     in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email
     to me.
     >     Thank you.
     >>     On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 8:28 AM Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
     >>     [5][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     >> Mike, Thanks for setting the record straight, and congratulations
     >     to
     >> these winners!
     >>
     >>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 8:36 PM, MICHAEL DREW
     <[6][9]mikeldrew at aol.com>
     >     wrote:
     >>>
     >>> i>>?a|and in fact, these guys:
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> came in FIRST IN CLASS at Le Mans Classic this year, in a
     >     factory
     >>> Gr4
     >> car.
     >>>
     >>> Since the event started in 2004, far more than half the Panteras
     >>> entered
     >> have finished each year, on average. So it is highly
     disrespectful
     >     of
     >> their collective efforts to claim that none have ever finished at
     >     all.
     >>>
     >>> Mike
     >>>
     >>> Sent from my iPhone
     >>>
     >>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 22:15, MICHAEL DREW
     <[7][10]mikeldrew at aol.com>
     >     wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>> i>>?Scott,
     >>>>
     >>>> You need to pay more attention! Plenty of Panteras have
     >     finished at
     >>>> LMC
     >> including this year.
     >>>>
     >>>> Mike
     >>>>
     >>>> Sent from my iPhone
     >>>>
     >>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 18:24, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
     >> [8][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> i>>?All the LeMans Classics Iave attended, as far as I know,
     >     no
     >>>>> Pantera
     >> has finished the entire event. I hope you have much better
     >     success!
     >>>>>
     >>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Mike & Elizabeth
     >>>>>>> <[9][12]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
     >> wrote:
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> i>>?Good luck!A  Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
     >>>>>> Mike Thomas
     >>>>>> Panteras Northwest
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>> From: DeTomaso
     <[10][13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
     >     On
     >>>>>> Behalf
     >> Of Steve Lisa
     >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 10:50 AM
     >>>>>> To: List DeTomaso Forum
     >     <[11][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     >>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> All,
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> We have called the Pantera up to run the 24-hour race, taking
     >     the
     >> place of the Panoz.A  We were having issues with the new Panoz
     >     motor,
     >> and the motor finally let fo.A  So, are here and going to run the
     >> Pantera in the Classic 24-hour instead.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> The Pantera has already run 5 sessions this weekend in the
     >     HSR
     >>>>>> Sprint
     >> races, with it's fasted time at 2:11.5.A  Because we didn't run
     >     the
     >> qualifying events for the Classic 24-hour event we will be
     >     starting
     >> from the back of Group A (pre-73, early FIA Group 3 and 4 cars, I
     >> believe in the GTO class) for the Classic 24, which is fine for a
     >     long
     >> event.A  We will be driving conservatively with goal of finishing
     >     the event.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> In addition, Goodwood sent some reporters over from England
     >     to
     >>>>>> cover
     >> the Daytona event.A  They enjoyed seeing the Pantera race, and
     >     filmed
     >> the car on track and a fun 15 minute interview about the car.A
     >> Goodwood also mounted an in-car camera for the upcoming 24-hour
     >     race.A
     >> They are planning a short feature on the Pantera, which is really
     >     nice
     >> of them, but who knows if it will ever get done.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Anyway, I will post updates and results starting tomorrow.A
     >     There
     >>>>>> are
     >> six groups, so we rotate out every six hours (i.e., four one-hour
     >> races every six hours).
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Fingers crossed.....we are asked a lot from the car.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Regards,
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
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