[DeTomaso] To sleeve or not to sleeve

Rich Hoppe richbhoppe at gmail.com
Sat Nov 5 12:01:44 EDT 2022


I have been told that the sleeves they used 20 years ago were a problem but
today they have a new style that makes them work.
Rich

On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 8:57 AM Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com> wrote:

>    Then the question becomes:
>
>    Is it better to have a .030 block with one or two non adjacent sleeves
>    or a fully sleeved block at original bore?
>
>    I've been told you get heat transfer between cylinders on a Cleveland
>    at or over .030.
>
>    And we all know there's already too much heat in a Pantera engine.
>
>    Dan
>
>    Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>    -------- Original message --------
>    From: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
>    Date: 11/4/22 8:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
>    To: Dan <dan at excaliburre.com>
>    Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] To sleeve or not to sleeve
>
>    Dan,
>    Sleeving all eight cylinders is like putting eight plugs in a flat tire
>    with one hole in it!
>    If you have a block that needs one or two sleeves, you install one or
>    two sleeves.
>    Mike
>    Sent from my iPhone
>    > On Nov 4, 2022, at 18:13, Dan <dan at excaliburre.com> wrote:
>    >
>    >    I'm having handful of 351C blocks sonic tested.
>    >
>    >   One is the Boss 351 that Dennis Quella built for "The Winged
>    Warrior"
>    >   in the early `80's.
>    >
>    >   I'm wondering if it would be advisable to sleeve all 8 cylinders to
>    >   bring it back to original bore.
>    >
>    >   Another option is to sleeve just one or two holes and go with .030.
>    >
>    >
>    >   A 3^rd option is to sleeve two cylinders on an original bore 2 bolt
>    >   block.
>    >
>    >
>    >   Over the years I've received advice regarding sleeves from sleeving
>    all
>    >   8 holes makes for a stronger block to sleeving a Cleveland can
>    >   interfere with the water jackets.
>    >
>    >
>    >   Does anyone have an opinion on sleeving a 351C?
>    >
>    >
>    >   Dan
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >   Dan Courtney
>    >
>    >   La Jolla, CA
>    >
>    >
>    >   [1]Dan at excaliburre.com
>    >
>    > References
>    >
>    >   1. mailto:Dan at excaliburre.com
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   I have been told that the sleeves they used 20 years ago were a problem
   but today they have a new style that makes them work.
   Rich

   On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 8:57 AM Dan Courtney <[1]dan at excaliburre.com>
   wrote:

     A  A Then the question becomes:
     A  A Is it better to have a .030 block with one or two non adjacent
     sleeves
     A  A or a fully sleeved block at original bore?
     A  A I've been told you get heat transfer between cylinders on a
     Cleveland
     A  A at or over .030.
     A  A And we all know there's already too much heat in a Pantera
     engine.
     A  A Dan
     A  A Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
     A  A -------- Original message --------
     A  A From: MICHAEL DREW <[2]mikeldrew at aol.com>
     A  A Date: 11/4/22 8:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
     A  A To: Dan <[3]dan at excaliburre.com>
     A  A Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] To sleeve or not to sleeve
     A  A Dan,
     A  A Sleeving all eight cylinders is like putting eight plugs in a
     flat tire
     A  A with one hole in it!
     A  A If you have a block that needs one or two sleeves, you install
     one or
     A  A two sleeves.
     A  A Mike
     A  A Sent from my iPhone
     A  A > On Nov 4, 2022, at 18:13, Dan <[5]dan at excaliburre.com> wrote:
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A  I'm having handful of 351C blocks sonic tested.
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A One is the Boss 351 that Dennis Quella built for "The
     Winged
     A  A Warrior"
     A  A >A  A in the early `80's.
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A I'm wondering if it would be advisable to sleeve all 8
     cylinders to
     A  A >A  A bring it back to original bore.
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A Another option is to sleeve just one or two holes and go
     with .030.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A A 3^rd option is to sleeve two cylinders on an original
     bore 2 bolt
     A  A >A  A block.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A Over the years I've received advice regarding sleeves
     from sleeving
     A  A all
     A  A >A  A 8 holes makes for a stronger block to sleeving a
     Cleveland can
     A  A >A  A interfere with the water jackets.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A Does anyone have an opinion on sleeving a 351C?
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A Dan
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A Dan Courtney
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A La Jolla, CA
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A [1][6]Dan at excaliburre.com
     A  A >
     A  A > References
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A 1. mailto:[7]Dan at excaliburre.com
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