[DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

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Tue Jun 14 19:22:49 EDT 2022


Ideally, Jon would come up with an electronic adapter of the correct pulse width that screwed onto the straight adapter on the ZF, bypassing the trouble-prone right angle adapter entirely. That would be ideal.


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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>; Roland Jaeckel <willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Törnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

  Assuming you are planning to replace the angle drive adapter, it should
  not be hard for an electrical wizard like John Haas to come up with a
  pulse conversion to adapt the output signal to get the Si speedo to
  read off in mph i.e. 100kmh now reads 100mph, signal requires x1.62
  factor increase.

  Alternately and perhaps easier, as the sender is mechanically driven by
  the angle drive you could insert a gear adapter that increases the
  output mechanical speed by 1.62.

  That way your Si Speedo is visually identical and an easy swap back to
  stock.

  Julian
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  GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:06 PM
  To: Roland Jaeckel <willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Toernblom
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  Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

  My right angle adapter 5-0504 snapped the tabs off that screws into the
  ZF.
  My speedometer is electric with motor driven needle...NO CABLE.
  I would like to convert the 300 KPH speedo to MPH.....but the sender
  that screws onto the right angle adapter is a 2 wire 4 pulse Square
  wave sender.......all new 200 mph speedometers use 8 or 16 pulse VSS
  signal.....which is totally different. I would like to keep the Pantera
  90 Si looking original.
  Gerry
  > On 06/13/2022 12:37 PM Roland Jaeckel <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
  >
  >
  > No, those i have are leftovers from the Pantera SI and electronic
  only.
  >
  >      Am 13.06.2022 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
  <tipo874 at gmail.com>:
  >
  >    vss.jpeg
  >    > 13 juni 2022 kl. 20:55 skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso
  >    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
  >    >
  >    > Ken,
  >    >
  >    > Are you looking for something to generate a VSS signal while
  >    retaining your cable driven Speedometer?
  >    >
  >    > I believe this is what Roland and Thomas are referencing. It
  >    generates a HALL effect signal.  It generates a square wave with
  eight
  >    pulses per revolution.
  >    >
  >    >
  >    >
  >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
  >    image0.jpeg
  >    >
  >    >
  >    >
  >    >
  >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
  >    image1.jpeg
  >    >
  >    >
  >    > Or are you looking for something to eliminate the cable but
  retain
  >    your OEM speedometer? I believe there are several vendors offering
  a
  >    mechanical solution like this.
  >    >
  >    >
  >    >
  >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
  >    image2.jpeg
  >    >
  >    >
  >    > I have one of the Ford VSS units available if you decide to go
  that
  >    direction.
  >    >
  >    > Larry
  >    >
  >    > Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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   Ideally, Jon would come up with an electronic adapter of the correct
   pulse width that screwed onto the straight adapter on the ZF, bypassing
   the trouble-prone right angle adapter entirely. That would be ideal.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   To: GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>; Roland Jaeckel
   <willibillie at live.de>; Thomas TAP:rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
   Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
   Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 1:57 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
     Assuming you are planning to replace the angle drive adapter, it
   should
     not be hard for an electrical wizard like John Haas to come up with a
     pulse conversion to adapt the output signal to get the Si speedo to
     read off in mph i.e. 100kmh now reads 100mph, signal requires x1.62
     factor increase.
     Alternately and perhaps easier, as the sender is mechanically driven
   by
     the angle drive you could insert a gear adapter that increases the
     output mechanical speed by 1.62.
     That way your Si Speedo is visually identical and an easy swap back
   to
     stock.
     Julian
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
     GERRY ROMACK <[2]gr2835 at comcast.net>
     Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:06 PM
     To: Roland Jaeckel <[3]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Toernblom
     <[4]tipo874 at gmail.com>
     Cc: Email List Address For Posting
   <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
     Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
     My right angle adapter 5-0504 snapped the tabs off that screws into
   the
     ZF.
     My speedometer is electric with motor driven needle...NO CABLE.
     I would like to convert the 300 KPH speedo to MPH.....but the sender
     that screws onto the right angle adapter is a 2 wire 4 pulse Square
     wave sender.......all new 200 mph speedometers use 8 or 16 pulse VSS
     signal.....which is totally different. I would like to keep the
   Pantera
     90 Si looking original.
     Gerry
     > On 06/13/2022 12:37 PM Roland Jaeckel <[7]willibillie at live.de>
   wrote:
     >
     >
     > No, those i have are leftovers from the Pantera SI and electronic
     only.
     >
     >      Am 13.06.2022 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
     <[8]tipo874 at gmail.com>:
     >
     >    vss.jpeg
     >    > 13 juni 2022 kl. 20:55 skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso
     >    <[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
     >    >
     >    > Ken,
     >    >
     >    > Are you looking for something to generate a VSS signal while
     >    retaining your cable driven Speedometer?
     >    >
     >    > I believe this is what Roland and Thomas are referencing. It
     >    generates a HALL effect signal.  It generates a square wave with
     eight
     >    pulses per revolution.
     >    >
     >    >
     >    >
     >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
     >    image0.jpeg
     >    >
     >    >
     >    >
     >    >
     >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
     >    image1.jpeg
     >    >
     >    >
     >    > Or are you looking for something to eliminate the cable but
     retain
     >    your OEM speedometer? I believe there are several vendors
   offering
     a
     >    mechanical solution like this.
     >    >
     >    >
     >    >
     >    > !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
     >    image2.jpeg
     >    >
     >    >
     >    > I have one of the Ford VSS units available if you decide to go
     that
     >    direction.
     >    >
     >    > Larry
     >    >
     >    > Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
     >    >
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