[DeTomaso] steering noise question
Konrad Szwab
kszwab at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 14:31:12 EDT 2022
In my case it was hardened grease after 30 years. Took it apart, cleaned,
re greased and it is good. Already had brass gears changed by my father in
1992.
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022, 12:41 PM Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
wrote:
> The power seems to be there when pushing the window down (it's already
> down all the way) but nothing when I push the switch up. I beleive the
> plastic window gears were replaced by brass units before I bought the
> car, but that was over 16 years ago, and I'm just taking the seller's
> word for it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 10:34 AM
> To: 'Christopher Kimball' <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; 'Pantera Owners Club
> of America' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] steering noise question
>
> Are you saying that when you hit the window switch, you can hear the
> motor trying to move the window down but nothing happens when you hit
> the switch to put it up? Or, is it down and doesn't want to come up?
> Besides the switch, it could be that the original plastic gear in your
> window motor has failed, as in crumbled into little bits, and needs to
> be replaced.
> When I looked under the front of Chris' car, my thought was some kind
> of binding in the rack and pinion gears or the turning of the steering
> shaft. As Chris mentioned, it was quite pronounced when he pulled into
> the garage, but completely gone after we'd swapped out the ZF fluid.
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
> Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 10:09 AM
> To: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] steering noise question
> I warned you that once I got my car back I'd again be inundating you
> with questions!
> Here are the latest two:
> 1. My passenger window decided it no longer wants to go up. The
> down position still seems to work. I'm assuming the switch has gone
> bad, so I'll order a new pair tomorrow. In the meantime, is there
> anything special I need to be aware of when removing the current
> switches?
> 1. After driving about 45 minutes to Mike Thomas' house in warm
> weather the other day for the gear-oil change , as I pulled into Mikes'
> garage the front of the car seemed to be groaning when going over
> bumps, and especially when turning right or left. Once in the garage
> and stationery, the sound was quite pronounced when I turned the wheels
> left or right. After the oil was changed, probably an hour or so, we
> jacked up the front of the car and Mike took a look at the front wheels
> for loose bearings, and we again turned the wheels lock-to-lock.
> Nothing seemed wrong, and the noise was gone. Even after the car was
> back on the ground the noise was no longer there.
> Yesterday, in 99-degree heat, I drove about an hour, and the sound
> returned. After letting the car sit for a couple of hours, again, no
> sound. After driving home again, however, the sound returned--I
> became aware of it after I turned off the freeway and began turning
> left and right on the side streets. It almost sounds as if something
> is binding, or something under there needs lubrication. Are there
> places to lube things under the front of the car? If so, I'm ready
> with my new, handy-dandy grease gun! Otherwise, what could be the
> problem?
> I appreciate your help and advice.
> Sincerely,
> Chris
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In my case it was hardened grease after 30 years. Took it apart,
cleaned, re greased and it is good. Already had brass gears changed by
my father in 1992.
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022, 12:41 PM Christopher Kimball
<[1]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> wrote:
A A The power seems to be there when pushing the window down (it's
already
A A down all the way) but nothing when I push the switch up.A I
beleive the
A A plastic window gears were replaced by brass units before I
bought the
A A car, but that was over 16 years ago, and I'm just taking the
seller's
A A word for it.
A A Sincerely,
A A Chris
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Mike & Elizabeth <[2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 10:34 AM
A A To: 'Christopher Kimball' <[3]chrisvkimball at msn.com>; 'Pantera
Owners Club
A A of America' <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] steering noise question
A A Are you saying that when you hit the window switch, you can
hear the
A A motor trying to move the window down but nothing happens when
you hit
A A the switch to put it up?A Or, is it down and doesn't want to
come up?
A A Besides the switch, it could be that the original plastic gear
in your
A A window motor has failed, as in crumbled into little bits, and
needs to
A A be replaced.
A A When I looked under the front of Chris' car, my thought was
some kind
A A of binding in the rack and pinion gears or the turning of the
steering
A A shaft.A As Chris mentioned, it was quite pronounced when he
pulled into
A A the garage, but completely gone after we'd swapped out the ZF
fluid.
A A Mike
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of
A A Christopher Kimball
A A Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 10:09 AM
A A To: Pantera Owners Club of America
<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] steering noise question
A A I warned you that once I got my car back I'd again be
inundating you
A A with questions!
A A Here are the latest two:
A A A 1.A A My passenger window decided it no longer wants to go
up.A The
A A down position still seems to work.A I'm assuming the switch
has gone
A A bad, so I'll order a new pair tomorrow.A In the meantime, is
there
A A anything special I need to be aware of when removing the
current
A A switches?
A A A 1.A A After driving about 45 minutes to Mike Thomas' house
in warm
A A weather the other day for the gear-oil change , as I pulled
into Mikes'
A A garage the front of the car seemed to be groaning when going
over
A A bumps, and especially when turning right or left.A Once in the
garage
A A and stationery, the sound was quite pronounced when I turned
the wheels
A A left or right.A After the oil was changed, probably an hour or
so, we
A A jacked up the front of the car and Mike took a look at the
front wheels
A A for loose bearings, and we again turned the wheels
lock-to-lock.
A A Nothing seemed wrong, and the noise was gone.A Even after the
car was
A A back on the ground the noise was no longer there.
A A Yesterday, in 99-degree heat, I drove about an hour, and the
sound
A A returned.A After letting the car sit for a couple of hours,
again, no
A A sound.A After driving home again, however, the soundA
A returned--I
A A became aware of it after I turned off the freeway and began
turning
A A left and right on the side streets.A It almost sounds as if
something
A A is binding, or something under there needs lubrication.A Are
there
A A places to lube things under the front of the car?A If so, I'm
ready
A A with my new, handy-dandy grease gun!A Otherwise, what could be
the
A A problem?
A A I appreciate your help and advice.
A A Sincerely,
A A Chris
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