[DeTomaso] FW: WHAT IS THE TORQUE FOR WHEEL LUG NUTS

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From: byrdjf at embarqmail.com <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 3:15 PM
To: 'Pantdino' <pantdino at aol.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] WHAT IS THE TORQUE FOR WHEEL LUG NUTS

Going off memories decades ago, but the use of lubricant allowed the same bolt loading (compressive stretch) with significant reduces "torque".
Anti-sieze was very effective and seem to recall reducing required torque over 50%.    Something like thin oil not as much.   Given the lubricant varied torque to loading so differently, using only torque was rarely used for critical bolting

Besides allowing the bolt to achieve a high loading with reduced torque, that also means the "breaking" torque to back off is lower.   I am "assuming" having a greater backing off torque would be as important to the clamping loading.

That said, every removal, I wire brush threads and run tap/die over, and the contacting faces.  For my tractor, a little never-sieze.   For my car/truck. . . dry  

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Pantdino via DeTomaso
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:10 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] WHAT IS THE TORQUE FOR WHEEL LUG NUTS

I have always used 70 ft-lbs on alloy wheels without a problemHowever, I always use a little anti-seize on the nuts or bolts, which decreases the recommended torque setting by 20%. I use it sparingly, so maybe 10% reduction.
I don't know why anyone would not use anti-seize on their wheel bolts. Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Ian Deffebach via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2022 7:44 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] WHAT IS THE TORQUE FOR WHEEL LUG NUTS

  Mike...... and after all those times I've seen you respond with RTFM :
  )  I need to go out and check my wheels to make sure I've got them
  torqued correctly.....I think I was using 75 ft/lbs but now unsure :
  (    - Mike R.


  From: [1]Mike Drew via DeTomaso
  Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 3:05 AM
  To: [2]Ian Deffebach via DeTomaso
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] WHAT IS THE TORQUE FOR WHEEL LUG NUTS


  The factory shop manual is wrong, likely an incorrect conversion from
  some obscure metric measurement like newton-hectares to proper ft/lbs.
  I think it falls for only 43 ft-lbs which is downright dangerous.
  I use 75-80 ft/lbs.
  Mike
  Sent from my iPad
  > On Feb 26, 2022, at 11:37, Ian Deffebach via DeTomaso
  <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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