[DeTomaso] Rod end/cap thru pan...

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Thu Oct 28 14:55:48 EDT 2021


You said "Cleavor".  Is this an aftermarket W based block?

On 10/28/21, 2:08 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:

       We drained the oil and there was no bearing material.A  Classic rod cap
       failure.A  It appears our old crap motor builder replaced our SCAT
       crank and rods with crap stuff, and kept the good stuff.A  From we can
       tell, the rod end bolt was loose and fell out. So, the momentary oil
       surge was likely just turning on the accusump (but we have never seen
       120 PSI from the accusum ).A  It also explains no warning...I had good
       oil pressure and temps.A  So, quite simply, as far as we can tell, one
       rod bolt fell out.A A
       We cannot run dry sump.A
       A This car has been a dream to race for the last 3-4 weekends.A  We we
       are now seeing the last of our weak points from poor earlier choices.
       So we are leaving our plumbing the same, it is all worked great. The
       only issue is to get a properly built motor in there. We still do have
       to work out where the low pressure is for our oil cooler. We will do
       that with cameras and arrow testing at INDE Motorsports when we get a
       chance.
       We are actually a bit relieved that it was an instantaneous rod end
       failure and not something that either Tony or I missed with gauges etc.

       On Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 13:57 Rich Hoppe <[1]richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:

         I have a Cleveland with a titan oil pump. It has two external oil
         return lines.A  One that balances the air pressure from the top of
         the motor to the bottom in the oil pan.A  The other picks up excess
         oil in the valve cover to the oil pan.
         I ran the silver state at 6200 rpms almost constant.
         Might be an oiling option to look at.
         Rich
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         > On Oct 28, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Larry Stock
         <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
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         > i>>?NO, but it is now
         > LOL
         >
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         > i>>?On 10/28/21, 10:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Daniel C Jones"
         <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
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         >A  A  A  A Are you permitted to run a dry sump?
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