[DeTomaso] Looking for great substitute lights

Sat Oct 23 16:09:34 EDT 2021

I published an article about this in the POCA Newsletter (July or Sept 2020).

Best Value in a Semi-Sealed Beam Halogen 7” Headlight
-	Chuck Huber (Pantera Owner’s Club of Arizona)

I had been browsing the Interwebs in search of a good replacement for my stock 7” round Sylvania Silverstar headlights.  It’s a long story, but as my headlights are only used at night, I didn’t feel the need to go with one of the low-profile offerings because they require modifications to the headlight buckets.

While researching similar lights for my 1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ-40, I came upon this “Headlight Retrofit ‘Kit’”, with a Toyota stock number.  This kit is a 7”, Toyota OEM glass light housing with a Halogen H4 replaceable light element.  Included in this kit are:

	Qty	Item		Description
	2	Bulb Housing	Glass (Front & Back) With Reflector & Rubber Bulb Seal
	2	H4 Bulbs	Removable H4 Halogen Bulb Element
	20	Tie Wraps	High Quality for Harness Install
	1 Tube	Grease		Di-Electric Grease
	1	Harness	Uses Voltage to Existing Bulbs to control Relays for High Effective Power.

The Toyota Kit Part Number is 81110-60P70.  The most amazing part of this is the price for the complete kit (ALL parts listed above included) was only $46.57.  With shipping and tax, my total was just shy of $70.  This is a stunning value, especially when you see the quality of the bulb housings, and harness / relay wiring.  Everything I received is genuine Toyota quality.  You can order the setup from:

	www.camelbacktoyotaparts.com

Not sue the link works, but there are lots of other places & dealers you can order this from.  The Bulbs are Koito.

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: LSJ [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 3:27 PM
To: Fred Foreman; Steve Lisa
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for great substitute lights

Steve, for an easy and economical upgrade, try a Sylvania Silverstar or Ultra headlamp that will drop right into your factory housing.
They are noticeably brighter.
The modern upgrade is to LED which I did in my 2001 Superduty pickup recently. The difference was literally Night and Day.
The best $50 I have ever spent on a vehicle upgrade.
HIDs, and other lighting updates requiring relays are obsolete now.

LSJ

    On Friday, October 22, 2021, 11:36:41 AM EDT, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:  

   By theA way - I like the Cibie option as they were around back when the
  GR3 cars were racing, and a good number of the racers apparently used
  the Cibie external lights.A  For this trip, we are likely to simply put
  new replacement 7" halogens in, then decide what to do longer-termA if
  when the Pantera is entered in the longer endurance races.A  Daytona's
  good lighting makes this one easier.A A
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  On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 7:41 AM Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
  wrote:

  Thanks guys... I will update the group with what we go with.

  On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:07 Fred Foreman <[4]fred4man at att.net> wrote:

    A  A I would suggest Ciebe 7" headlight housing.A  They fit like a
    stock
    A  A headlight and use the same electrical plug.A  You can put an
    H-4 bulb in
    A  A them at stock wattage 55/65.A  They have a nice pattern and
    sharp cut
    A  A off, that is, they don't throw light up high when on low
    beams.A  You
    A  A get a nice penetrating pattern on high beam.A  I like them on
    my car.
    A  A H-4's also give you the opportunity to up-grade to higher
    wattage bulbs
    A  A by simply changing out the bulb not the entire housing.A  You
    can get
    A  A 55/100 watt bulbs (and several other options) for a really
    penetrating
    A  A HI HI beam!A  A Yes, you would need a relay on the high circuit
    for that
    A  A bulb and probably use a ceramic electrical connector.A  I have
    not tried
    A  A the 100 watt highs on my car.
    A  A Fred Foreman
    A  A 11659 Jones Rd.A  #370
    A  A Houston, Tx, 77070
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