[DeTomaso] The ADA Pantera: back on track after 24 years of absence !
Patrick HALS
patrickhals at gmail.com
Mon Oct 18 12:12:14 EDT 2021
So, we'll be racing in the South of France next weekend in category GT1 of
the French Classic Championship. The car is 50 % ready to my liking only,
as we haven't been able to install everything we wanted, like the flat
floor, the extended front spoiler and the extractor. Yet, it will be quite
similar to the Le Mans 1994 configuration and we all hope everything will
turn out fine on a track that the car, the team and myself will discover.
The most important modification we've performed since the first shakedown
two weeks ago is the brakes : new discs, new mastercylinders... Fingers
crossed as we shall have no reference to the "old" configuration. The track
sure looks like a fun place : technical, quick, wide, rollercoaster type !
Can't wait for the first laps ! Here is a little video to water your mouth
of a French gentleman and his coach in a Porsche GT3 !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmVLq6zqDQ
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Patrick
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ADA 9628
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> 3. Re: Caliper color (jderyke at aol.com)
> 4. Fuel Pickup Sock (Richard Greenblum)
> 5. Re: Fuel Pickup Sock (Mike Drew)
> 6. Re: Caliper color (Rich Hoppe)
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> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver Cadmium"
> electroplating on calipers during this era. This has been changed to
> "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in color. This
> change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
>
> I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better description
> of the processes and differences.
>
> Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
>
> https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b0a3103dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
>
>
> FYI
>
> Jeff 2467
>
>
> > On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
> >
> > Jeff
> > 6559
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> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > They weren’t gold. They were ‘metal-colored’ but I don’t believe they
> were
> > > bare metal.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What color were the original calipers
> > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > > Paint them black or gold
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
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> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
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> > Rich,
> > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
> > they were bare metal.
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <[2]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i>>?
> > > What color were the original calipers
> > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:06:04 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> I believe it to be Nickel Plating
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> Doug Braun
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 8:58 AM
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
>
> [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> from a very low mileage unrestored car
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > They weren’t gold. They were ‘metal-colored’ but I don’t believe they
> > were bare metal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What color were the original calipers Wilkenson replacements are
> > > gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And cold-bloodedly, the
> issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot fumes
> from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished assemblies are
> safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are dusty.
> There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize' which is the
> same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron surface
> the same way.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver Cadmium"
> electroplating on calipers during this era. This has been changed to
> "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in color. This
> change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
> I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
> description of the processes and differences.
> Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
> [1]https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b0a31
>
> 03dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
> FYI
> Jeff 2467
> > On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
> >
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> > [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
> they were
> > > bare metal.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <[4]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i>>?
> > > > What color were the original calipers
> > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > > Paint them black or gold
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
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> > Rich,
> > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
> > they were bare metal.
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe
> <[2][10]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i>>?
> > > What color were the original calipers
> > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> To: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 14:47:29 -0500
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Pickup Sock
> All,
>
> I’m installing a Sniper unit so I’m drawing fuel threw the drain at the
> bottom. The return is going into a modified filler neck. I’m capping the
> fuel pickup line, don’t know if I’ll ever use it—if the Sniper works, it’s
> not likely. I’m installing a new fuel pickup/sending unit. Should I
> remove the sock because it’s probably not of much use with external filters
> and because it might deteriorate, or leave it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
> Austin, TX
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> To: Richard Greenblum <Richard at richardgreenblum.com>
> Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:07:13 -1000
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel Pickup Sock
> Richard,
>
> I would leave it in place. Who knows if it may prove useful to you (or
> somebody else) in the future?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 17, 2021, at 09:47, Richard Greenblum <
> Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I’m installing a Sniper unit so I’m drawing fuel threw the drain at the
> bottom. The return is going into a modified filler neck. I’m capping the
> fuel pickup line, don’t know if I’ll ever use it—if the Sniper works, it’s
> not likely. I’m installing a new fuel pickup/sending unit. Should I
> remove the sock because it’s probably not of much use with external filters
> and because it might deteriorate, or leave it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Richard
> > Austin, TX
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 06:09:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> Thanks guys
>
> Rich
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2021, at 10:15 AM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
> My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And cold-bloodedly, the
> issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot fumes
> from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished assemblies are
> safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are dusty.
> There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize' which is the
> same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron surface
> the same way.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
> A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver Cadmium"
> electroplating on calipers during this era. This has been changed to
> "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in color. This
> change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
> I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
> description of the processes and differences.
> Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
> [1]https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b0a31
>
> 03dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
> FYI
> Jeff 2467
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> >
> > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
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> > > They weren't gold. They were `metal-colored' but I don't believe
> they were
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> > > > What color were the original calipers
> > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > > Paint them black or gold
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So, we'll be racing in the South of France next weekend in category GT1
of the FrenchA Classic Championship. The car is 50 % ready to
myA liking only, as we haven't been able to install everything we
wanted, like the flat floor, the extended front spoiler and the
extractor. Yet, it will be quite similar to the Le Mans 1994
configuration and we all hope everything will turn out fine on a track
that the car, the team and myself will discover. The most important
modification we've performed since the first shakedown two weeks ago is
the brakes : new discs, new mastercylinders... Fingers crossed as we
shall have no reference to the "old" configuration. The track sure
looks like a fun place : technical, quick, wide, rollercoaster type !
Can't wait for the first laps ! Here is a little video to water your
mouth ofA aA French gentleman andA his coach inA a PorscheA GT3 !
A [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmVLq6zqDQ
Patrick
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A A 1. Re: Caliper color (Jeff Kimball)
A A 2. Re: Caliper color (Doug Braun)
A A 3. Re: Caliper color ([7]jderyke at aol.com)
A A 4. Fuel Pickup Sock (Richard Greenblum)
A A 5. Re: Fuel Pickup Sock (Mike Drew)
A A 6. Re: Caliper color (Rich Hoppe)
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To:A Jeff Detrich <[9]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc:A [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Rich Hoppe
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Date:A Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver
Cadmium" electroplating on calipers during this era.A This has been
changed to "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in
color.A A This change was due to environmental issues with the
Cadmium.
I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
description of the processes and differences.A
Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
[12]https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b
0a3103dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
FYI
Jeff 2467
> On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich <[13]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>A
> [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> from a very low mileage unrestored car
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
they were
> > bare metal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe
<[15]richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > i>>?
> > > What color were the original calipers
> > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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>A A A image38MA23534035-0039.jpg
>A A from a very low mileage unrestored car
>A A Jeff
>A A 6559
>
>A A On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
>A A <[1][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>A A A Rich,
>A A A They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat
believe
>A A A they were bare metal.
>A A A Mike
>A A A Sent from my iPhone
>A A A > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe
<[2][21]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
>A A A wrote:
>A A A >
>A A A > i>>?
>A A A > What color were the original calipers
>A A A > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
>A A A > Paint them black or gold
>A A A > Sent from my iPhone
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To:A "'Jeff Detrich'" <[35]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
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Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
I believe it to be Nickel Plating
Doug Braun
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
[image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
from a very low mileage unrestored car
Jeff
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
[40]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
they
> were bare metal.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <[41]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > i>>?
> > What color were the original calipers Wilkenson replacements are
> > gold.
> > Paint them black or gold
---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date:A Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A A My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And
cold-bloodedly, the
A A issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot
fumes
A A from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished
assemblies are
A A safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are
dusty.
A A There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize'
which is the
A A same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron
surface
A A the same way.
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Jeff Kimball <[51]jgkrenton at comcast.net>
A A To: Jeff Detrich <[52]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
A A Cc: [53]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe
<[54]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A A A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver
Cadmium"
A A electroplating on calipers during this era.A This has been
changed to
A A "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in
color.A This
A A change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
A A I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
A A description of the processes and differences.
A A Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
A
A [1][55]https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-80
4c-0b0a31
A A 03dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
A A FYI
A A Jeff 2467
A A > On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich
<[2][56]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
A A >
A A >
A A > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
A A > from a very low mileage unrestored car
A A >
A A > Jeff
A A > 6559
A A >
A A > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
A A > [3][57]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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A A > > Rich,
A A > >
A A > > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat
believe
A A they were
A A > > bare metal.
A A > >
A A > > Mike
A A > >
A A > > Sent from my iPhone
A A > >
A A > > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe
<[4][58]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A > > >
A A > > > i>>?
A A > > > What color were the original calipers
A A > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
A A > > > Paint them black or gold
A A > > > Sent from my iPhone
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Date:A Sun, 17 Oct 2021 14:47:29 -0500
Subject:A [DeTomaso] Fuel Pickup Sock
All,
Iam installing a Sniper unit so Iam drawing fuel threw the drain at
the bottom.A The return is going into a modified filler neck.A Iam
capping the fuel pickup line, donat know if Iall ever use itaif the
Sniper works, itas not likely.A Iam installing a new fuel
pickup/sending unit.A A Should I remove the sock because itas
probably not of much use with external filters and because it might
deteriorate, or leave it?
Thanks,
Richard
Austin, TX
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Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel Pickup Sock
Richard,
I would leave it in place. Who knows if it may prove useful to you
(or somebody else) in the future?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 17, 2021, at 09:47, Richard Greenblum
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>
> i>>?All,
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> Iam installing a Sniper unit so Iam drawing fuel threw the drain
at the bottom.A The return is going into a modified filler neck.A
Iam capping the fuel pickup line, donat know if Iall ever use itaif
the Sniper works, itas not likely.A Iam installing a new fuel
pickup/sending unit.A A Should I remove the sock because itas
probably not of much use with external filters and because it might
deteriorate, or leave it?
>
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> Richard
> Austin, TX
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Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A A Thanks guys
A A Rich
A A Sent from my iPhone
A A A On Oct 17, 2021, at 10:15 AM, [114]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
A A My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And
cold-bloodedly, the
A A issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot
fumes
A A from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished
assemblies are
A A safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are
dusty.
A A There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize'
which is the
A A same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron
surface
A A the same way.
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Jeff Kimball <[115]jgkrenton at comcast.net>
A A To: Jeff Detrich <[116]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
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A A Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A A A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver
Cadmium"
A A electroplating on calipers during this era.A This has been
changed to
A A "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in
color.A This
A A change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
A A I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
A A description of the processes and differences.
A A Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
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A A 03dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
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A A > On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich
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A A > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
A A > from a very low mileage unrestored car
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A A > Jeff
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A A > > They weren't gold. They were `metal-colored' but I don't
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A A they were
A A > > bare metal.
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A A > > Mike
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A A > > > What color were the original calipers
A A > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
A A > > > Paint them black or gold
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