[DeTomaso] Caliper color
Rich Hoppe
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Mon Oct 18 09:09:01 EDT 2021
Thanks guys
Rich
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> On Oct 17, 2021, at 10:15 AM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And cold-bloodedly, the issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot fumes from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished assemblies are safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are dusty. There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize' which is the same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron surface the same way.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
>
> A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver Cadmium" electroplating on calipers during this era. This has been changed to "Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in color. This change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
>
> I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better description of the processes and differences.
>
> Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
>
> https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b0a3103dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
>
> FYI
>
> Jeff 2467
>
>
> > On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
> >
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > They weren’t gold. They were ‘metal-colored’ but I don’t believe they were
> > > bare metal.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What color were the original calipers
> > > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > > Paint them black or gold
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > image38MA23534035-0039.jpg
> > from a very low mileage unrestored car
> > Jeff
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> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
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> > Rich,
> > They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
> > they were bare metal.
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <[2]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i>>?
> > > What color were the original calipers
> > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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Thanks guys
Rich
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 17, 2021, at 10:15 AM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
My '72 had 4 silver calipers back in early '80. And cold-bloodedly, the
issue with cadmium affected the mfg due to workers inhaling hot fumes
from the electroplatng tanks, not the users. Finished assemblies are
safe to handle unless they were used with asbestos pads and are dusty.
There's a spray-can application that adds 'cold galvanize' which is the
same zinc finish but not electroplated, and protects the iron surface
the same way.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Caliper color
A little digging around the web indicates Girling used "Silver Cadmium"
electroplating on calipers during this era. This has been changed to
"Clear Zink" electroplating which is actually silver in color. This
change was due to environmental issues with the Cadmium.
I sure one of the scientists on this list can provide a better
description of the processes and differences.
Here's an interesting article on caliper plating by Raybestos
[1]https://www.brakepartsinc.com/dam/jcr:6b698f68-b53d-4f91-804c-0b0a31
03dece/Problems%20with%20Corrosion%20on%20Calipers.pdf
FYI
Jeff 2467
> On 10/17/2021 8:58 AM Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> [image: image38MA23534035-0039.jpg]
> from a very low mileage unrestored car
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
> [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > They weren't gold. They were `metal-colored' but I don't believe
they were
> > bare metal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe <[4]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What color were the original calipers
> > > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > > Paint them black or gold
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> image38MA23534035-0039.jpg
> from a very low mileage unrestored car
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:50 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
> <[1][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Rich,
> They werenat gold. They were ametal-coloreda but I donat believe
> they were bare metal.
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Oct 16, 2021, at 08:26, Rich Hoppe
<[2][10]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > i>>?
> > What color were the original calipers
> > Wilkenson replacements are gold.
> > Paint them black or gold
> > Sent from my iPhone
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