[DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland
Julian Kift
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Mon Oct 11 19:03:59 EDT 2021
Or of course you could just unbolt the filter assembly from the bracket as well....
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland
If not already installed, you might want to put the short hose to the filter on a swivel fitting to avoid stressing the hose. Alternatively, you could install a no leak quick disconnect fitting to separate that line.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland
It looks like your almost there Steve, just dismount it and lay it over the top of the Quarter panel. As an also, put a fan on it, as there is not much air circulation in that location without a inside thru the cooler to outside air flow from a electric fan.
12027P Fan assy air cond. Condenser, Maridyne 10" 950 CFM $180.00
Larry
On 10/11/21, 3:46 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
Hmmm.... do you think that will work here?A See our cooler setup:
* [1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/RjToSEDuk79fpoVA8
Regardless, we should make the cooler more easily removed if that saves
us 3-4 hours of additional work.
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The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:12 PM Asa Jay Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
To remove transaxle, unbolt the cooler from body and flip it over a
fender ( use a fender cover ).A Remove the rear grill between the
exhausts and that will give you the clearance without having to
disconnect any lines.
:)
Asa A Jay
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On Oct 11, 2021, at 08:42, Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
i>>?
The friction material actually disintegrated and was all over the place
- mostly blown out the inspection window at the top.A It was a lot of
friction material -- so it looked and ran fine until all of sudden it
didn't.A Since it is Asa Jay's original clutch, it served its life
well.A A
With as much HP/Torque we are running, we surely needed it to be a more
regular maintenance item.A We had already replaced it with the
Centerforce for the Cleveland, and then we pulled the Cleveland and
installed the Clevor, we went with the motor-builder had assembled on
the CLEVOR -- which was the old McCleod.A I don't think we intended it
to be in there very long.A But, the CLEVOR is running well and suiting
these early races, so we left it in -- too long,A obviously!A A
BTW - we still haven't figured out how to remove the transaxle assembly
to clear theA coolers without completelyA unbolting and lifting the
motor.A I know it is supposedly done, but we can't figure it out.A A
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
Direct: 480-442-0297
[5]www.PatentIt.com
Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
|A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:06 AM Asa Jay Laughton <[6]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
Looks like the McLeod I put in back in 2012.A Looks like friction
material completely wore off one side.A All the springs are still
in place.A
You do know that the friction material on a pantera clutch disk is
slightly thinner than average?A Racing as hard as you and Tony do,
it may be a good idea to check it often.A Convenient to have an
inspection hole at the top of the bell housing.
:)
What did you replace it with?
Asa Jay
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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 07:04, Steve Lisa <[7]stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
>
> i>>?A A For those interested, here is a link of the pictures of
our blown up
>A A clutch assembly from the Portland race.AA A
>A A A * [1][8]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
>
>A A Regards,A
>A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>A A The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
>A A Direct: 480-442-0297
>A A [2][9]www.PatentIt.com
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480.535.6628A
>A A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ
85260
>
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Or of course you could just unbolt the filter assembly from the bracket
as well....
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 4:02 PM
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>; Steve Lisa
<stevelisa at patentit.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland
If not already installed, you might want to put the short hose to the
filter on a swivel fitting to avoid stressing the hose. Alternatively,
you could install a no leak quick disconnect fitting to separate that
line.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:55 PM
To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>; Asa Jay Laughton
<asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland
It looks like your almost there Steve, just dismount it and lay it over
the top of the Quarter panel. As an also, put a fan on it, as there is
not much air circulation in that location without a inside thru the
cooler to outside air flow from a electric fan.
12027P Fan assy air cond. Condenser, Maridyne 10" 950 CFM
$180.00
Larry
On 10/11/21, 3:46 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
Hmmm.... do you think that will work here?A See our cooler
setup:
* [1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/RjToSEDuk79fpoVA8
Regardless, we should make the cooler more easily removed if
that saves
us 3-4 hours of additional work.
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
Direct: 480-442-0297
[2]www.PatentIt.com
Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
|A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A
A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:12 PM Asa Jay Laughton
<[3]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
To remove transaxle, unbolt the cooler from body and flip it
over a
fender ( use a fender cover ).A Remove the rear grill between
the
exhausts and that will give you the clearance without having to
disconnect any lines.
:)
Asa A Jay
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
On Oct 11, 2021, at 08:42, Steve Lisa
<[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
i>>?
The friction material actually disintegrated and was all over
the place
- mostly blown out the inspection window at the top.A It was a
lot of
friction material -- so it looked and ran fine until all of
sudden it
didn't.A Since it is Asa Jay's original clutch, it served its
life
well.A A
With as much HP/Torque we are running, we surely needed it to be
a more
regular maintenance item.A We had already replaced it with the
Centerforce for the Cleveland, and then we pulled the Cleveland
and
installed the Clevor, we went with the motor-builder had
assembled on
the CLEVOR -- which was the old McCleod.A I don't think we
intended it
to be in there very long.A But, the CLEVOR is running well and
suiting
these early races, so we left it in -- too long,A obviously!A A
BTW - we still haven't figured out how to remove the transaxle
assembly
to clear theA coolers without completelyA unbolting and lifting
the
motor.A I know it is supposedly done, but we can't figure it
out.A A
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
Direct: 480-442-0297
[5]www.PatentIt.com
Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
|A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A
A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:06 AM Asa Jay Laughton
<[6]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
Looks like the McLeod I put in back in 2012.A Looks like
friction
material completely wore off one side.A All the springs are
still
in place.A
You do know that the friction material on a pantera clutch
disk is
slightly thinner than average?A Racing as hard as you and
Tony do,
it may be a good idea to check it often.A Convenient to have
an
inspection hole at the top of the bell housing.
:)
What did you replace it with?
Asa Jay
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 07:04, Steve Lisa
<[7]stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
>
> i>>?A A For those interested, here is a link of the
pictures of
our blown up
>A A clutch assembly from the Portland race.AA A
>A A A * [1][8]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
>
>A A Regards,A
>A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>A A The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
>A A Direct: 480-442-0297
>A A [2][9]www.PatentIt.com
>A A Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656AA |A A F:A
480.535.6628A
>A A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale,
AZ
85260
>
>A A Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357AA |AA F:
312.896.5633AA
|AA A: 55 E.
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