[DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Mon Oct 11 18:12:10 EDT 2021 

To remove transaxle, unbolt the cooler from body and flip it over a fender ( use a fender cover ).  Remove the rear grill between the exhausts and that will give you the clearance without having to disconnect any lines.

:)
Asa  Jay

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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 08:42, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> The friction material actually disintegrated and was all over the place - mostly blown out the inspection window at the top.  It was a lot of friction material -- so it looked and ran fine until all of sudden it didn't.  Since it is Asa Jay's original clutch, it served its life well.  
> 
> With as much HP/Torque we are running, we surely needed it to be a more regular maintenance item.  We had already replaced it with the Centerforce for the Cleveland, and then we pulled the Cleveland and installed the Clevor, we went with the motor-builder had assembled on the CLEVOR -- which was the old McCleod.  I don't think we intended it to be in there very long.  But, the CLEVOR is running well and suiting these early races, so we left it in -- too long, obviously!  
> 
> BTW - we still haven't figured out how to remove the transaxle assembly to clear the coolers without completely unbolting and lifting the motor.  I know it is supposedly done, but we can't figure it out.  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com 
> Direct: 480-442-0297
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>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:06 AM Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>> Looks like the McLeod I put in back in 2012.  Looks like friction material completely wore off one side.  All the springs are still in place.  
>> You do know that the friction material on a pantera clutch disk is slightly thinner than average?  Racing as hard as you and Tony do, it may be a good idea to check it often.  Convenient to have an inspection hole at the top of the bell housing.
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> What did you replace it with?
>> 
>> Asa Jay
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>> > On Oct 11, 2021, at 07:04, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >    For those interested, here is a link of the pictures of our blown up
>> >   clutch assembly from the Portland race.A  A
>> >     * [1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
>> > 
>> >   Regards,A
>> >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>> >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>> >   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
>> >   Direct: 480-442-0297
>> >   [2]www.PatentIt.com
>> >   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
>> >   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>> > 
>> >   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
>> >   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
>> >   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
>> >   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
>> >   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
>> >   you.
>> > 
>> > References
>> > 
>> >   1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
>> >   2. http://www.patentit.com/
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   To remove transaxle, unbolt the cooler from body and flip it over a
   fender ( use a fender cover ).  Remove the rear grill between the
   exhausts and that will give you the clearance without having to
   disconnect any lines.

   :)

   Asa  Jay
   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

     On Oct 11, 2021, at 08:42, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
     wrote:

   The friction material actually disintegrated and was all over the place
   - mostly blown out the inspection window at the top.  It was a lot of
   friction material -- so it looked and ran fine until all of sudden it
   didn't.  Since it is Asa Jay's original clutch, it served its life
   well.
   With as much HP/Torque we are running, we surely needed it to be a more
   regular maintenance item.  We had already replaced it with the
   Centerforce for the Cleveland, and then we pulled the Cleveland and
   installed the Clevor, we went with the motor-builder had assembled on
   the CLEVOR -- which was the old McCleod.  I don't think we intended it
   to be in there very long.  But, the CLEVOR is running well and suiting
   these early races, so we left it in -- too long, obviously!
   BTW - we still haven't figured out how to remove the transaxle assembly
   to clear the coolers without completely unbolting and lifting the
   motor.  I know it is supposedly done, but we can't figure it out.
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [1]www.PatentIt.com
   Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656  |  F: 480.535.6628  |  A: 7689
   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357  |  F: 312.896.5633  |  A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.
   On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:06 AM Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:

     Looks like the McLeod I put in back in 2012.  Looks like friction
     material completely wore off one side.  All the springs are still in
     place.
     You do know that the friction material on a pantera clutch disk is
     slightly thinner than average?  Racing as hard as you and Tony do,
     it may be a good idea to check it often.  Convenient to have an
     inspection hole at the top of the bell housing.
     :)
     What did you replace it with?
     Asa Jay
     Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
     > On Oct 11, 2021, at 07:04, Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >    For those interested, here is a link of the pictures of our
     blown up
     >   clutch assembly from the Portland race.A  A
     >     * [1][4]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
     >
     >   Regards,A
     >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
     >   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
     >   Direct: 480-442-0297
     >   [2][5]www.PatentIt.com
     >   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
     >   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
     >
     >   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A
     A: 55 E.
     >   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
     >   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may
     contain
     >   confidential and privileged information. If you received this
     email in
     >   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
     Thank
     >   you.
     >
     > References
     >
     >   1. [6]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
     >   2. [7]http://www.patentit.com/
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   2. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   3. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
   4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
   5. http://www.PatentIt.com/
   6. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
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