[DeTomaso] Pictures of blown clutch from Portland

Mon Oct 11 12:04:03 EDT 2021

You were running the Dual friction clutch disc and interestingly enough the "Stock" Organic side stayed in place while the performance disc side overheated and disenigrated. McCloud also has a performance friction dual carbon sided disc for higher performance engines. All the Centerforce units come with a dual friction clutch disc similar to the one that failed in your McLeod unit. We like the Centerforce for stock replacements, and The McLeod double disc RST system for higher performance machines. It is a softer yet stronger clutch system which has undergone many improvements over the last 20 years and I can strongly recommend it now.

Your oil cooler is hooked up with flex hoses? Put a pad on the rear quarter panel, unbolt the cooler and flip it over the quarter to allow room to pull the transaxle our to disengage the clutch disc. Transaxle R&R should be a 4 hour job, that have known to be done with friends with help in hotel parking lots before breakfast sometimes in Monterey before the races start. (LOL)

Larry Stock

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On 10/11/21, 8:40 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:

       The friction material actually disintegrated and was all over the place
       - mostly blown out the inspection window at the top.A  It was a lot of
       friction material -- so it looked and ran fine until all of sudden it
       didn't.A  Since it is Asa Jay's original clutch, it served its life
       well.A A
       With as much HP/Torque we are running, we surely needed it to be a more
       regular maintenance item.A  We had already replaced it with the
       Centerforce for the Cleveland, and then we pulled the Cleveland and
       installed the Clevor, we went with the motor-builder had assembled on
       the CLEVOR -- which was the old McCleod.A  I don't think we intended it
       to be in there very long.A  But, the CLEVOR is running well and suiting
       these early races, so we left it in -- too long,A obviously!A A
       BTW - we still haven't figured out how to remove the transaxle assembly
       to clear theA coolers without completelyA unbolting and lifting the
       motor.A  I know it is supposedly done, but we can't figure it out.A A
       Regards,A
       Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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       On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:06 AM Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com>
       wrote:

         Looks like the McLeod I put in back in 2012.A  Looks like friction
         material completely wore off one side.A  All the springs are still
         in place.A
         You do know that the friction material on a pantera clutch disk is
         slightly thinner than average?A  Racing as hard as you and Tony do,
         it may be a good idea to check it often.A  Convenient to have an
         inspection hole at the top of the bell housing.
         :)
         What did you replace it with?
         Asa Jay
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         > On Oct 11, 2021, at 07:04, Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
         wrote:
         >
         > i>>?A  A For those interested, here is a link of the pictures of
         our blown up
         >A  A clutch assembly from the Portland race.AA  A
         >A  A  A * [1][4]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
         >
         >A  A Regards,A
         >A  A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
         >A  A The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
         >A  A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
         >A  A Direct: 480-442-0297
         >A  A [2][5]www.PatentIt.com
         >A  A Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656AA  |A A F:A
         480.535.6628A
         >A  A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ
         85260
         >
         >A  A Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357AA  |AA  F: 312.896.5633AA
         |AA  A: 55 E.
         >A  A Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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         contain
         >A  A confidential and privileged information. If you received this
         email in
         >A  A error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to
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         >A  A you.
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         > References
         >
         >A  A 1. [6]https://photos.app.goo.gl/cUh1qNerQ5JUfWWh7
         >A  A 2. [7]http://www.patentit.com/
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