[DeTomaso] Pantera with Coyote engine swap
Erik Kolstoe
ekolstoe at gmail.com
Thu Nov 18 11:49:44 EST 2021
Asa,
Agreed that is nice we all like different things and agreed that this car
looks very tastefully done, but I’m also aware that the number of Panteras
are likely fewer than 10,000 units in total. Compared to let’s say a 1972
Corvette with production numbers of 27,000 for 1972 alone, and for the
metal bumper Corvette cars is likely around 150,000 units so going through
a variety of stock vs restomod really doesn't impact the high production
numbers.
One of the things that I have noticed with significant collector cars and
folks that can collect them is that we are all stewards for these cars. The
cars will likely outlive us, and we should be respectful of that and what
is done to them. I guess my hope is that we are not encouraging people to
take nice, period correct cars, and encourage them to drop Coyote or
Predator motors into them. I think Mike Drew has said it before, if a
person is resurrecting life into a car that was pretty far gone or has been
heavily modified previously, then there really is no harm there, but we
should be considerate of existing examples that are in good condition
before taking the saw to them.
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> Hi Erik,
> There is nothing wrong with being a traditionalist. I myself appreciate a
> good original looking and sounding car, especially if it’s well taken care
> of. I also like restomods, but I wouldn’t want to see everyone doing it
> either. The mix is what makes it interesting.
>
> I think it’s a sharp looking upgrade, maybe I don’t like the interior
> color, but I will readily admit it looks awesome. The Pantera has a near
> timeless look, meaning to me that it looks modern without being modern, so
> an engine upgrade like that looks perfectly normal… to me. Not everyone
> agrees.
>
> I also like the look of a clean original Pantera, because it really shows
> how it used to be and how even then it was a force to be reckoned with.
> I’ve lived a little bit in both worlds when I owned my Pantera.
>
> Each of us likes different things, thank God. And thankfully there are
> still plenty of original looking Panteras out there to scratch that itch.
>
> :)
> Asa Jay
>
>
>
>
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>
> > On Nov 17, 2021, at 14:16, Erik Kolstoe <ekolstoe at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I'm a little more of a traditionalist, but to me that engine
> just
> > looks wrong in there. I guess I'm that way with all of the LS swaps
> > into older cars as well. As soon as I see what is in there I lose
> > interest. I'm sure it helps it drive like a modern car, and has tons of
> > power,A but isn't that the point in buying an older car? For me it is
> > "take me back in time..."
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:06 PM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
> > <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > A A Nice looking Pantera highlighted in this list of Coyote engine
> > swaps!
> > A
> > A [1][2]https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot
> > -rods
> > References
> > A A 1.
> > [3]https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot-rods
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Asa,
Agreed that is nice we all like different things and agreed that this
car looks very tastefully done, but Iam also aware that the number of
Panteras are likely fewer than 10,000 units in total. Compared to letas
say a 1972 Corvette with production numbers of 27,000 for 1972 alone,
and for the metal bumper Corvette cars is likelyA around 150,000 units
so going through a varietyA of stock vs restomod really doesn't impact
the high production numbers.A
One of the thingsA that I have noticed with significant collector cars
and folks that can collect them is that we are all stewards for these
cars. The cars will likely outlive us, and we should be respectful of
that and what is done to them. I guess my hope is that we are not
encouraging people to take nice, period correct cars, and encourage
them to drop Coyote or Predator motors into them. I think Mike Drew has
said it before, if a person is resurrectingA life into a car that was
pretty far gone or has been heavily modified previously, then there
really is no harm there, but we should be considerate of existing
examples that are in good condition before taking the saw to them.
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021, Asa Jay Laughton
<[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
There is nothing wrong with being a traditionalist.A I myself
appreciate a good original looking and sounding car, especially if
itas well taken care of.A I also like restomods, but I wouldnat
want to see everyone doing it either.A The mix is what makes it
interesting.
I think itas a sharp looking upgrade, maybe I donat like the
interior color, but I will readily admit it looks awesome.A The
Pantera has a near timeless look, meaning to me that it looks modern
without being modern, so an engine upgrade like that looks perfectly
normala|A to me.A Not everyone agrees.
I also like the look of a clean original Pantera, because it really
shows how it used to be and how even then it was a force to be
reckoned with.A Iave lived a little bit in both worlds when I owned
my Pantera.
Each of us likes different things, thank God.A And thankfully there
are still plenty of original looking Panteras out there to scratch
that itch.
:)
AsaA Jay
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 14:16, Erik Kolstoe <[2]ekolstoe at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> i>>?A A Maybe I'm a little more of a traditionalist, but to me
that engine just
>A A looks wrong in there. I guess I'm that way with all of the LS
swaps
>A A into older cars as well. As soon as I see what is in there I
lose
>A A interest. I'm sure it helps it drive like a modern car, and
has tons of
>A A power,AA but isn't that the point in buying an older car? For
me it is
>A A "take me back in time..."
>
>A A On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:06 PM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
>A A <[1][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>A A A AA A Nice looking Pantera highlighted in this list of
Coyote engine
>A A A swaps!
>A A A A
>A A A A
[1][2][4]https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-ho
t
>A A A -rods
>A A A References
>A A A AA A 1.
>A A
A [3][5]https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot
-rods
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[10]https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot-rod
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4. https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot
5. https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/six-coyote-engine-swap-hot-rods
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