[DeTomaso] Test: is the list up, or just quiet?
Garth Rodericks
garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 17 10:50:39 EST 2021
Good idea! I have the Pantera Electronics fuse box as well, so all fuses have solid connections. I suppose it's possible a wire could have come loose, so I'll give that a look too.
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021, 07:23:20 AM PST, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
Garth, I went through a similar problem a few years ago. I replaced the ignition switch thinking that was the problem. I still had the issue after a new switch and eventually discovered that a wire going to my fuse box from the ignition circuit had come loose causing the engine to quit intermittently. Sometimes it was flowing juice and sometime it wasn’t based on car vibrations. Before you replace things I would check every wire connected to your fuse box and also ensure all fuses are clean and tight. I eventually installed Jon Haas’s fuse box upgrade to make sure I had solid wiring and fuses going forward.
Glad your Pantera got home safely from the highway. I was lucky in that my Pantera did this on local roads only. Mike R.
From: MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:59 PM
To: Garth Rodericks
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Test: is the list up, or just quiet?
Garth,
This is a standard issue many have reported here before.
The coil gets 12V from both the ‘start’ and ‘run’ positions on your ignition switch. Your ‘run’ position has conked out. Nothing wrong with your motor.
Easily fixed….
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 16, 2021, at 13:24, Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ha! I was waiting for someone to ask...
>
> I met my wife for lunch yesterday, then afterward got on the road to head back to the office. I had just accelerated onto the freeway into the fast lane when the engine suddenly died. I pushed in the clutch and let it back out to bump-start the car again, but got no love - it wouldn't fire. So I pushed the clutch back in, worked my way to the right lane, and coasted off the freeway at the next exit and into a neighborhood where I could park safely and investigate what happened without the risk to life and limb (and the car) of distracted drivers playing with their phones when they should be focused on the road.
>
> When I tried to start the car again, I found it would fire, but would not run or idle. As soon as the key was released from the start position, it would die. I removed the air cleaner and verified I had fuel whenever the throttle was actuated. I also looked optimistically for a disconnected wire that would remedy my problem, but there was no such thing to be found. I then called AAA and was told it would be a 159 minute wait for a rollback to come to me. Ugh!
>
> Just for kicks, I tried to start the car again... It started and ran!!! Woohoo! I figured I'd try to get it home, and if I made it I could cancel the rollback. Well, the car moved forward about 2 houses and in the middle of my U-turn it died again, and refused to run after that!
>
> Thankfully, the AAA rollback showed up within 30 minutes. The driver was a super nice guy who loved the Pantera and treated it with the same care and concern he might show a newborn grandchild. He claimed to have a lot of experience picking up Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Rolls Royces, but had never seen a Pantera in-person. He took lots of pictures, and was thrilled when I offered to open things up so he could get some better pics. He LOVED the car and couldn't wait to show the pics to his other buddies back at work who were stuck picking up mundane appliances.
>
> Anyway, we unloaded it at my house and I hoped it would run long enough to get up the driveway into the garage, but again, no love. The car would fire but not run. So I put it in gear and used the starter motor to move it up the driveway into the garage. It took a little bit of time because I stopped several times to let the wiring and whatnot cool as I didn't want to burn out anything.
>
> So what the heck is going on?! It seems the coil isn't getting 12v once the key is in the 'run' position. Tonight I'll run a jumper from the + side of the battery to the positive post on the coil and see if it will run.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 02:53:56 PM PST, MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Garth,
>
> Okay, you seem to have a story to tell based on your photo. What’s going on there?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 07:23, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > Try-sending test with smaller image that hopefully doesn’t need to wait for moderator approval.
> >
> > Anyway, just sending a test message to see if the list is up.
> >
> > <image0.jpeg>
>
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just sending a test message to see if the list is up.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Good idea! I have the Pantera Electronics fuse box as well, so all
fuses have solid connections. I suppose it's possible a wire could
have come loose, so I'll give that a look too.
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021, 07:23:20 AM PST, Mike Reilly
<reillyms at live.com> wrote:
Garth, I went through a similar problem a few years ago. I replaced
the ignition switch thinking that was the problem. I still had the
issue after a new switch and eventually discovered that a wire going to
my fuse box from the ignition circuit had come loose causing the engine
to quit intermittently. Sometimes it was flowing juice and sometime it
wasnat based on car vibrations. Before you replace things I would
check every wire connected to your fuse box and also ensure all fuses
are clean and tight. I eventually installed Jon Haasas fuse box
upgrade to make sure I had solid wiring and fuses going forward.
Glad your Pantera got home safely from the highway. I was lucky in
that my Pantera did this on local roads only. Mike R.
From: [1]MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:59 PM
To: [2]Garth Rodericks
Cc: [3]DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Test: is the list up, or just quiet?
Garth,
This is a standard issue many have reported here before.
The coil gets 12V from both the astarta and aruna positions on your
ignition switch. Your aruna position has conked out. Nothing wrong with
your motor.
Easily fixeda|.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 16, 2021, at 13:24, Garth Rodericks
<garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i>>?
> Ha! I was waiting for someone to ask...
>
> I met my wife for lunch yesterday, then afterward got on the road to
head back to the office. I had just accelerated onto the freeway into
the fast lane when the engine suddenly died. I pushed in the clutch
and let it back out to bump-start the car again, but got no love - it
wouldn't fire. So I pushed the clutch back in, worked my way to the
right lane, and coasted off the freeway at the next exit and into a
neighborhood where I could park safely and investigate what happened
without the risk to life and limb (and the car) of distracted drivers
playing with their phones when they should be focused on the road.
>
> When I tried to start the car again, I found it would fire, but would
not run or idle. As soon as the key was released from the start
position, it would die. I removed the air cleaner and verified I had
fuel whenever the throttle was actuated. I also looked optimistically
for a disconnected wire that would remedy my problem, but there was no
such thing to be found. I then called AAA and was told it would be a
159 minute wait for a rollback to come to me. Ugh!
>
> Just for kicks, I tried to start the car again... It started and
ran!!! Woohoo! I figured I'd try to get it home, and if I made it I
could cancel the rollback. Well, the car moved forward about 2 houses
and in the middle of my U-turn it died again, and refused to run after
that!
>
> Thankfully, the AAA rollback showed up within 30 minutes. The driver
was a super nice guy who loved the Pantera and treated it with the same
care and concern he might show a newborn grandchild. He claimed to
have a lot of experience picking up Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Rolls
Royces, but had never seen a Pantera in-person. He took lots of
pictures, and was thrilled when I offered to open things up so he could
get some better pics. He LOVED the car and couldn't wait to show the
pics to his other buddies back at work who were stuck picking up
mundane appliances.
>
> Anyway, we unloaded it at my house and I hoped it would run long
enough to get up the driveway into the garage, but again, no love. The
car would fire but not run. So I put it in gear and used the starter
motor to move it up the driveway into the garage. It took a little bit
of time because I stopped several times to let the wiring and whatnot
cool as I didn't want to burn out anything.
>
> So what the heck is going on?! It seems the coil isn't getting 12v
once the key is in the 'run' position. Tonight I'll run a jumper from
the + side of the battery to the positive post on the coil and see if
it will run.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 02:53:56 PM PST, MICHAEL DREW
<mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Garth,
>
> Okay, you seem to have a story to tell based on your photo. Whatas
going on there?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 07:23, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > i>>?Try-sending test with smaller image that hopefully doesnat need
to wait for moderator approval.
> >
> > Anyway, just sending a test message to see if the list is up.
> >
> > <image0.jpeg>
>
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Garth Rodericks
<garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i>>?Just sending a test message to see if the list is up.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>
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