[DeTomaso] Getting a Pantera started that hasn't run in 5 years

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Thu Nov 11 08:29:43 EST 2021


Larry,
I like that idea, thanks .. may use that method on some of my stuff ..  
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    On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 06:13:07 AM CST, Larry Weston <lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 All that, and we used a homemade pre-oiler made of some 4” pvc pipe and a few fittings and a length of hose connected to the oil pressure port. Used a few psi compressed air to force in a quart of oil while hand rotating a Cleveland that had sat for nearly twenty years. 
Fired up without even making any lifter noises. The display of acorns and related debris that shot out of the mufflers was pretty amazing. 

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> On Nov 11, 2021, at 1:22 AM, Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’d put in new plugs, spray-lube cylinder walls with a penetrant/lube, let it soak around the rings awhile - overnight, and hand crank the motor (before the plugs are put in - Dah -  or rock the car in high gear - All to avoid that sickening "snap" sound of a piston ring in that first millimeter of movement.  Just look at the alternative. Keep Murphy out of there.
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Might be good to do engine oil and filter, flush and fill coolant,
>>  replace battery.  Make sure the engine turns over with fresh oil.
>>  Initially you might refill the oil filter with a lower viscosity for
>>  primary oiling to crank, rods and pan. Next replace thermostat and then
>>  move on to the list.
>> 
>>  jerry knotts
>> 
>>  Hafast Racing
>> 
>>  On 11/10/2021 6:47 PM, Dave Londry wrote:
>> 
>>  eat up.
>> 
>>  On 2021-11-10 4:46 p.m., Dave Londry wrote:
>> 
>>  I would just start over and replace the oil, coolant and brake/clutch
>>  fluid.
>>  On the other hand, that would east up a whole day at the speed I move
>>  now.
>>  Dave
>> 
>>  On 2021-11-10 4:37 p.m., Mike & Elizabeth wrote:
>> 
>>  I've just learned that one of our members passed a while ago.  His wife
>>  has reached out to us to help her get the car started/running so she
>>  can move on to selling it.  It was a very nicely done 74, but has not
>>  run in over 5 years.  There is currently no battery in it.  I would
>>  imagine that any fuel in the carb has long since evaporated and left a
>>  nice lacquer sheen on everything, and the fuel in the tank is likely
>>  far gone as well.
>> 
>> 
>>  I'll check the coolant and oil levels and condition, also see if I can
>>  get a sample of the ZF fluid to see what shape it's in.  I'll also take
>>  a look at the brake and clutch fluids, get air in the tires and make
>>  sure the brakes aren't seized.  What other things should we look for
>>  before trying to get this car running?
>> 
>> 
>>  Mike Thomas
>> 
>>  Panteras Northwest
>> 
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   Larry,
   I like that idea, thanks .. may use that method on some of my stuff
   ..
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )

   On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 06:13:07 AM CST, Larry Weston
   <lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:
   All that, and we used a homemade pre-oiler made of some 4a pvc pipe and
   a few fittings and a length of hose connected to the oil pressure port.
   Used a few psi compressed air to force in a quart of oil while hand
   rotating a Cleveland that had sat for nearly twenty years.
   Fired up without even making any lifter noises. The display of acorns
   and related debris that shot out of the mufflers was pretty amazing.
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On Nov 11, 2021, at 1:22 AM, Jack Donahue <[1]demongusta at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Iad put in new plugs, spray-lube cylinder walls with a
   penetrant/lube, let it soak around the rings awhile - overnight, and
   hand crank the motor (before the plugs are put in - Dah -  or rock the
   car in high gear - All to avoid that sickening "snap" sound of a piston
   ring in that first millimeter of movement.  Just look at the
   alternative. Keep Murphy out of there.
   >
   >> On Nov 10, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Jerry Knotts <[2]knottsj at galstar.com>
   wrote:
   >>
   >>  Might be good to do engine oil and filter, flush and fill coolant,
   >>  replace battery.  Make sure the engine turns over with fresh oil.
   >>  Initially you might refill the oil filter with a lower viscosity
   for
   >>  primary oiling to crank, rods and pan. Next replace thermostat and
   then
   >>  move on to the list.
   >>
   >>  jerry knotts
   >>
   >>  Hafast Racing
   >>
   >>  On 11/10/2021 6:47 PM, Dave Londry wrote:
   >>
   >>  eat up.
   >>
   >>  On 2021-11-10 4:46 p.m., Dave Londry wrote:
   >>
   >>  I would just start over and replace the oil, coolant and
   brake/clutch
   >>  fluid.
   >>  On the other hand, that would east up a whole day at the speed I
   move
   >>  now.
   >>  Dave
   >>
   >>  On 2021-11-10 4:37 p.m., Mike & Elizabeth wrote:
   >>
   >>  I've just learned that one of our members passed a while ago.  His
   wife
   >>  has reached out to us to help her get the car started/running so
   she
   >>  can move on to selling it.  It was a very nicely done 74, but has
   not
   >>  run in over 5 years.  There is currently no battery in it.  I would
   >>  imagine that any fuel in the carb has long since evaporated and
   left a
   >>  nice lacquer sheen on everything, and the fuel in the tank is
   likely
   >>  far gone as well.
   >>
   >>
   >>  I'll check the coolant and oil levels and condition, also see if I
   can
   >>  get a sample of the ZF fluid to see what shape it's in.  I'll also
   take
   >>  a look at the brake and clutch fluids, get air in the tires and
   make
   >>  sure the brakes aren't seized.  What other things should we look
   for
   >>  before trying to get this car running?
   >>
   >>
   >>  Mike Thomas
   >>
   >>  Panteras Northwest
   >>
   >>
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