[DeTomaso] Vader window system?

Wed Jul 28 12:41:35 EDT 2021

Dear Mark,

                                I agree that the Ford Taurus/Aerostar motors are a nice upgrade to the stock motors.  Your notches "carefully placed" in the factory regulator are remarkably simple and well-reasoned.  With all due respect to my old friend Ted and his son Rick, a very nice alternative to the Vader option.  Thanks for sharing.

                               Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of MARK CHARLTON
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 10:55 AM
To: De Tomaso Forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vader window system?

I modified my car to use the Ford Aerostar (and Taurus can work too I’m told) motors for speed and reduced electrical load. A few notches carefully placed in the factory regulator enable full retraction. And all for a LOT less than $750!

Details are about two thirds the way down this web page:

http://www.markscars.ca/Pantera_Projects_2.html <http://www.markscars.ca/Pantera_Projects_2.html>

Cheers,

Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Richard Greenblum <Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the Vader window lifts.  As soon as I found out about the brass gears, I installed them in both window and the headlight lifts.  Despite replacing the whiskers and several attempts by me and others to adjust the tracks, I could never get the windows to open or close all the way, nor could I get rid of the drag at the top of travel.  That’s what made the $750 palatable.  I didn’t do it for the speed, in fact, I’m not crazy about the speed because I think it’s a little too fast.
> 
> Richard
> Austin, TX
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2021, at 23:42, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  All,
>> 
>>    Apparently this failed to go through first time?
>> 
>>  Mike
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>  Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>  From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>  Date: July 27, 2021 at 16:43:24 PDT
>>  To: John Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
>>  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vader window system?
>> 
>>  John,
>>  It's a super-sexy, super-elegant engineering solution to what I  
>> consider to be a non-problem, that being that the windows don't go up  
>> and down fast enough. It replaces the entire gear-and-arm mechanism  
>> with an exquisitely engineered cable-based system.
>>  I've never seen the problem with the stock system when it works as  
>> designed (using proper brass replacements for the crappy plastic 
>> gears  that can crack and fail). I have never once suffered because 
>> they  wouldn't go up or down fast enough. But some people feel the 
>> need to  have a glass guillotine in the door, that sends the glass up 
>> ZOOM that  fast. For them, the Vader system was invented (Ted 
>> Mitchell the  inventor was obsessed with Darth Vader, and his black 
>> GT5 license plate  was VADER).
>>  It's a brilliantly conceived and executed system, which is  
>> unfortunately expensive ($750 last I checked, for both sides).
>>  Mike
>>  Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>    On Jul 27, 2021, at 13:30, John Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
>>    wrote:
>> 
>>    For those of us that don't know, what is the Vadar window system?
>> 
>>    Thanks,
>> 
>>    Jack
>> 
>>    #4346
>> 
>>    On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Great thanks!
>> 
>>    Mike
>> 
>>    Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>      On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:14, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> 
>>      wrote:
>> 
>>    Mike,
>> 
>>    Rick posted on the PI Forum last year that he is still 
>> manufacturing
>> 
>>    the Vader window units and selling at $750 a pair.
>> 
>>    Email; mrhatfield06 at hotmail.com
>> 
>>    Cell (918) 346-8786
>> 
>>    Julian
>> 
>>      
>> __________________________________________________________________
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>>    From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>>    of
>> 
>>    Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> 
>>    Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 12:08 PM
>> 
>>    To: De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> 
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Vader window system?
>> 
>>    Guys,
>> 
>>    The late Ted Mitchell sold what was arguably the best aftermarket
>> 
>>    window solution, the Vader window lifts. With his passing, has 
>> that
>> 
>>    product left the market entirely? Or is Rick keeping them going?
>>    I've
>> 
>>    searched the web and can't find anything, nor can I find contact
>>    info
>> 
>>    for Rick?  A friend is looking for a set....
>> 
>>    Mike
>> 
>>    Sent from my iPad
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