[DeTomaso] spare tire/wheel

Christopher Kimball chrisvkimball at msn.com
Thu Dec 9 08:09:13 EST 2021


I can certainly relate to your frustration. The last 2 times I have called AAA have waited over 3 hours for the truck to arrive, and we are the top level AAA memberS. Very frustrating!



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-------- Original message --------
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Date: 12/9/21 6:40 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com>, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>
Cc: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] spare tire/wheel

I haven't carried a spare for many years, either in the Pantera or the Cobra.  I've used AAA for my backup.

But...

My Cobra recently started experiencing vapor lock.  It stranded me in Tallahassee over Thanksgiving break.  I was 500 miles from home.  I called AAA and waited for the tow truck.  It was going to be $1,800 to get me and the car home, but at that point, I didn't care.  I was on the side of the road for over an hour.  The tow truck driver finally called and refused to tow me.  They said it would be "too uncomfortable" to drive that far.  I called my wife, who helped find a U-Haul truck and auto transport.  I had originally called U-Haul, but the national number couldn't find anything.  Long story, but I finally got on the road, 7 hours after I entered Tallahassee.

Last weekend, I took the car to a show about 5 miles away.  I figured it would be okay, since it wouldn't have time to overheat.  But it happened again.  It died just as I parked the car.  I figured it would cool enough during the show, and it did enough to get me going.  It died again 2 miles from the show.  I called AAA again.  This time, the tow truck driver refused the tow and cancelled my AAA case.  Nobody told me they cancelled the call, so I waited for 2 hours for a truck that would never show.  I finally gave up on them.  I walked across the street (it died near a gas station), and bought a small gas can and a soft drink in a plastic container.  I poured gas from the gas can to the soft drink container, and from there into the vent tubes.  I figured I could limp it for 3 miles, which I did.  Filling the fuel bowls was actually enough gas to get me all the way home.

So, I don't trust AAA anymore.  It may be that the local tow truck companies are unreliable, probably due to Covid, but it doesn't really matter.

If I had a flat tire, and if I had a spare, I could use the spare, and drive home with the deck lid open.  I wouldn't do that for 500 miles, but it wouldn't be a problem for short distances.  And if I still ran the rear trunk, I'd carry the 90's Lincoln compact spare.

Btw, I now think the vapor lock is a hardened gas line that is sucking air.  This replica is almost 30 years old, so it probably has gas lines that are not ethanol friendly.  I have the car safely in my garage, so I'm going to go through the entire fuel system.

On 12/8/21, 11:56 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of LSJ via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

       After having some wheel and tire "issues", I bought a late 90's Lincoln
       compact spare made of aluminum. It is very lightweight and easily fits
       into the trunk.
       The OEM compact spare tire also matches quite closely to the diameter
       of the rubber on my GT5.
       LSJ

       On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 09:04:05 PM EST, Konrad Szwab
       <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
         I would drive on the spare and the down the flat tire on top of the
         luggage rack I have on top of the deck lid
         On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 8:02 PM Mike Drew <[1][1]mikeldrew at aol.com>
       wrote:
           My recommendation is simply adonata.
           There is no place to put a full sized wheel and tire in the car.
       So,
           if you get a flat and install the spare, do you plan to leave the
           flat and the wheel on the side of the road and drove away?A  Of
           course not.
           So, you will get a tow truck in any case. So no need for a sparea|.
           Mike
           Sent from my iPad
           > On Dec 4, 2021, at 16:58, Konrad Szwab <[2][2]kszwab at gmail.com>
           wrote:
           >
           > i>>?A  A Many years ago, sadly my father threw away the spare
           tire/wheel.
           >A  A What would be the recommendation for a spare tire/wheel/jack
           for the'73
           >A  A ?
           >A  A Thanks,
           >A  A Konrad
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   I can certainly relate to your frustration. The last 2 times I have
   called AAA have waited over 3 hours for the truck to arrive, and we are
   the top level AAA memberS. Very frustrating!
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   smartphone
   -------- Original message --------
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Date: 12/9/21 6:40 AM (GMT-05:00)
   To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com>, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Konrad
   Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>
   Cc: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] spare tire/wheel

   I haven't carried a spare for many years, either in the Pantera or the
   Cobra.  I've used AAA for my backup.
   But...
   My Cobra recently started experiencing vapor lock.  It stranded me in
   Tallahassee over Thanksgiving break.  I was 500 miles from home.  I
   called AAA and waited for the tow truck.  It was going to be $1,800 to
   get me and the car home, but at that point, I didn't care.  I was on
   the side of the road for over an hour.  The tow truck driver finally
   called and refused to tow me.  They said it would be "too
   uncomfortable" to drive that far.  I called my wife, who helped find a
   U-Haul truck and auto transport.  I had originally called U-Haul, but
   the national number couldn't find anything.  Long story, but I finally
   got on the road, 7 hours after I entered Tallahassee.
   Last weekend, I took the car to a show about 5 miles away.  I figured
   it would be okay, since it wouldn't have time to overheat.  But it
   happened again.  It died just as I parked the car.  I figured it would
   cool enough during the show, and it did enough to get me going.  It
   died again 2 miles from the show.  I called AAA again.  This time, the
   tow truck driver refused the tow and cancelled my AAA case.  Nobody
   told me they cancelled the call, so I waited for 2 hours for a truck
   that would never show.  I finally gave up on them.  I walked across the
   street (it died near a gas station), and bought a small gas can and a
   soft drink in a plastic container.  I poured gas from the gas can to
   the soft drink container, and from there into the vent tubes.  I
   figured I could limp it for 3 miles, which I did.  Filling the fuel
   bowls was actually enough gas to get me all the way home.
   So, I don't trust AAA anymore.  It may be that the local tow truck
   companies are unreliable, probably due to Covid, but it doesn't really
   matter.
   If I had a flat tire, and if I had a spare, I could use the spare, and
   drive home with the deck lid open.  I wouldn't do that for 500 miles,
   but it wouldn't be a problem for short distances.  And if I still ran
   the rear trunk, I'd carry the 90's Lincoln compact spare.
   Btw, I now think the vapor lock is a hardened gas line that is sucking
   air.  This replica is almost 30 years old, so it probably has gas lines
   that are not ethanol friendly.  I have the car safely in my garage, so
   I'm going to go through the entire fuel system.
   On 12/8/21, 11:56 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of LSJ via DeTomaso"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
          After having some wheel and tire "issues", I bought a late 90's
   Lincoln
          compact spare made of aluminum. It is very lightweight and
   easily fits
          into the trunk.
          The OEM compact spare tire also matches quite closely to the
   diameter
          of the rubber on my GT5.
          LSJ
          On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 09:04:05 PM EST, Konrad Szwab
          <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
            I would drive on the spare and the down the flat tire on top
   of the
            luggage rack I have on top of the deck lid
            On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 8:02 PM Mike Drew
   <[1][1]mikeldrew at aol.com>
          wrote:
              My recommendation is simply adonata.
              There is no place to put a full sized wheel and tire in the
   car.
          So,
              if you get a flat and install the spare, do you plan to
   leave the
              flat and the wheel on the side of the road and drove away?A
   Of
              course not.
              So, you will get a tow truck in any case. So no need for a
   sparea|.
              Mike
              Sent from my iPad
              > On Dec 4, 2021, at 16:58, Konrad Szwab
   <[2][2]kszwab at gmail.com>
              wrote:
              >
              > i>>?A  A Many years ago, sadly my father threw away the
   spare
              tire/wheel.
              >A  A What would be the recommendation for a spare
   tire/wheel/jack
              for the'73
              >A  A ?
              >A  A Thanks,
              >A  A Konrad
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