[DeTomaso] One overlooked Pantera sale
Steve Lisa
stevelisa at patentit.com
Wed Aug 18 14:28:39 EDT 2021
A lot of this sentiment is one of the reasons we built a Group 3 racer
without the flares etc (and saved all of the original parts -- every last
one). I looked for a long time for the perfect car to convert to racer --
and Asa Jay had it. If desired, it can be put back to stock
pretty easily. Had I not found Asa Jay's car, I would have probably bought
two cars -- one in need of repair to be built into the racer (at which
point we might have gone the Group 4 route) and one to drive on the street.
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:57 AM Nathan Giles <nathan.giles at ex3.com> wrote:
> Mile,
>
> While your case may be true for recent auction results I question it as a
> scientific result. The recent spat of high prices are spawned by investors
> who know nothing of the Pantera, only seeking to invest for future flip.
> And yes, they will to a degree drive future market. But, what does the
> direct sale market look like? How do you explain the Ring Brothers car?
>
> As you may know my car is highly modified. I have zero regrets. I have
> passion for these cars and their history. And frankly it may or may not
> ever be priced at the top of the market. I’m ok with that. My kids can
> figure out what to do with it after I’m gone.
>
> Nathan Giles
>
> > On Aug 18, 2021, at 07:20, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > There was one Pantera sale that inexplicably was overlooked in the
> > Hammerprice summary, although it was listed in the app:
> >
> > This car:
> >
> > [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0821-481041/1972-detomaso-pantera/
> >
> > Sold for $78k.
> >
> > Let that sink in for a minute. At the same auction, people were willing
> > to pay $20k more for a CRASHED Pantera than they would pay for a GT5
> > conversion! This just highlights what I've said for years--if you are
> > considering hacking up a Pantera to convert it to GT5 or GT5-S or GT/4
> > configuration, you have to realize that the $20-30k+ cost of the
> > conversion will then be coupled with a $20-30k LOSS in value, for an
> > all-in cost of $40-60k.
> >
> > If you have the hots for a widebody Pantera, do yourself and the world
> > a favor and buy one already done like this. This looks like a really
> > nice car, one that you would likely really enjoy, Mister Widebody. And
> > it would preserve an unmolested car for the much larger (and
> > deep-pocketed) narrow body crowd. In fact, if you chose not to hack
> > your car and instead sold it and bought one already done, you would
> > likely achieve happiness and have an extra $20-30k in your pocket!
> >
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0821-481041/1972-detomaso-pantera/
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A lot of this sentiment is one of the reasons we built a Group 3 racer
without the flares etc (and saved all of the original parts -- every
last one).A I looked for a long time for the perfect car to convert to
racer -- and Asa Jay had it.A If desired, it can be put back to stock
prettyA easily.A Had I not foundA Asa Jay's car, I would have probably
bought two cars -- one in need of repair to be built into the racer (at
which point we might have gone the Group 4 route) and one to drive on
the street.
A A A A
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
Direct: 480-442-0297
[1]www.PatentIt.com
Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
|A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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you.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:57 AM Nathan Giles <[2]nathan.giles at ex3.com>
wrote:
Mile,
While your case may be true for recent auction results I question it
as a scientific result. The recent spat of high prices are spawned
by investors who know nothing of the Pantera, only seeking to invest
for future flip. And yes, they will to a degree drive future market.
But, what does the direct sale market look like? How do you explain
the Ring Brothers car?
As you may know my car is highly modified. I have zero regrets. I
have passion for these cars and their history. And frankly it may or
may not ever be priced at the top of the market. Iam ok with that.
My kids can figure out what to do with it after Iam gone.
Nathan Giles
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 07:20, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> i>>?A A All,
>
>A A There was one Pantera sale that inexplicably was overlooked in
the
>A A Hammerprice summary, although it was listed in the app:
>
>A A This car:
>
>A
A [1][4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0821-481041/1972-detomaso-pante
ra/
>
>A A Sold for $78k.
>
>A A Let that sink in for a minute. At the same auction, people
were willing
>A A to pay $20k more for a CRASHED Pantera than they would pay for
a GT5
>A A conversion!A This just highlights what I've said for
years--if you are
>A A considering hacking up a Pantera to convert it to GT5 or GT5-S
or GT/4
>A A configuration, you have to realize that the $20-30k+ cost of
the
>A A conversion will then be coupled with a $20-30k LOSS in value,
for an
>A A all-in cost of $40-60k.
>
>A A If you have the hots for a widebody Pantera, do yourself and
the world
>A A a favor and buy one already done like this. This looks like a
really
>A A nice car, one that you would likely really enjoy, Mister
Widebody. And
>A A it would preserve an unmolested car for the much larger (and
>A A deep-pocketed) narrow body crowd. In fact, if you chose not to
hack
>A A your car and instead sold it and bought one already done, you
would
>A A likely achieve happiness and have an extra $20-30k in your
pocket!
>
>A A Mike
>A A Sent from my iPad
>
> References
>
>A A 1.
[5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0821-481041/1972-detomaso-pantera/
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