[DeTomaso] $13 a gasoline?
Larry Stock
larrys at panteraparts.com
Mon Oct 26 17:37:58 EDT 2020
Same goes for our dwindling 15 or so left Coal fired power plants with no more being built, compared to
The EU has 468, and now building 27 more
India has 589, now building 446 more
China has 2363 and now building 1171 more
The reality is;
There are a total of 5615 Coal fired power plants in 8 countries, so shutting down our 15 power plants is going to save our planet, probably not going to be 0.00% to the -7 power of insifnificant.
Larry
On 10/26/20, 2:17 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Matt Wells" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of nwpantera at gmail.com> wrote:
A What ties the global warming discussion with politics is pure
economics and politicalA affiliation withA big industry.
I agree and like I alluded to, the inaccurate perception of our old
cars being a major contributor is lack of education.
Matt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 12:58 PM Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
California has emitted over 90 million metric tons of CO2 related to
wildfires in 2020 alone....
Even when there's no wildfires I have been through the California farm
belt when the farmers are burning rice paddy stubble and you can't see
your hand in front of your face the smoke is so thick and yet
perception is that classic cars are gross polluters, unfortunately you
can't have a climate impact discussion that doesn't involve politics!
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] $13 a gasoline?
A
It all works together Ken, including the fish with "no real value".
Since this has morphed into a climate issue and not a political one I
would
like to add something to the discussion.
As Terry noted facts and data will lead us to a better understanding of
the
powers at play here on our little blue rock.
I recently watched an enlightening doc on Netflix called* "Kiss the
Ground"*
featuring Woody Harrelson.
It explains how the farming methods of the past have caught up with us
and
contributes to excess Carbon being expelled to our atmosphere.
Through education and better understanding of how we've arrived at this
crisis point of human evolution we can hopefully help to reverse it.
There is another program on Netflix I would recommend by David
Attenborough
called *"A Life on Our Planet"*.
Somehow it helps me to personally deal with global warming anxiety by
knowing exactly why we're screwed.
I have to force myself to watch these types of shows as it angers me to
no
end.
They also offer some hope of the action necessary that could possibly
save
us and the planet.
I now realize that even though ICE emissions are a contributing factor
to
the destruction of our amazing biosphere they are not the only reason.
Learn from unbiased sources and stay away from politically motivated
opines!
Terry,
I did a search and found that the NASA program you mentioned is
available
to the public. Thanks for the heads up.
It's on my watch list!
Matt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:25 AM Ken Green via DeTomaso <
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>A A A Certainly suspicious.
>A A A But I wonder why it makes sense to dump fresh water into the
Sacramento
>A A A delta and then into the ocean to maintain the environment of a
fish
>A A A (the delta smelt) that appears headed to extinction, when the
water
>A A A could be used for agriculture that would reduce atmospheric
CO2?A If
>A A A global warming is such a big deal it seems like we should grow
more
>A A A vegetation not save fish with no real value?A A lot of what
the
>A A A government is doing just doesn't make much sense to me, so I
can
>A A A believe that pushing gas to ridiculous prices to satisfy
>A A A environmentalists is not out of the question.
>A A A Ken
>
>A A A On Monday, October 26, 2020, 10:03:52 AM PDT, Jeff Detrich
>A A A <[7]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>A A A A A I assume this may be from an oil industry supported source,
but seems
>A A A A A AA A to have some basis.A A
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>A A A A A A A AA A I assume this may be from an oil industry
supported source,
>A A A but
>A A A A A A A seems
>A A A A A A A AA A to have some basis.
>A A A A A A A AA A [1]Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal Would
Reach $13
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>A A A A A A A AA AA A Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal
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