[DeTomaso] $13 a gasoline?
Matt Wells
nwpantera at gmail.com
Mon Oct 26 15:16:49 EDT 2020
It all works together Ken, including the fish with "no real value".
Since this has morphed into a climate issue and not a political one I would
like to add something to the discussion.
As Terry noted facts and data will lead us to a better understanding of the
powers at play here on our little blue rock.
I recently watched an enlightening doc on Netflix called* "Kiss the Ground"*
featuring Woody Harrelson.
It explains how the farming methods of the past have caught up with us and
contributes to excess Carbon being expelled to our atmosphere.
Through education and better understanding of how we've arrived at this
crisis point of human evolution we can hopefully help to reverse it.
There is another program on Netflix I would recommend by David Attenborough
called *"A Life on Our Planet"*.
Somehow it helps me to personally deal with global warming anxiety by
knowing exactly why we're screwed.
I have to force myself to watch these types of shows as it angers me to no
end.
They also offer some hope of the action necessary that could possibly save
us and the planet.
I now realize that even though ICE emissions are a contributing factor to
the destruction of our amazing biosphere they are not the only reason.
Learn from unbiased sources and stay away from politically motivated opines!
Terry,
I did a search and found that the NASA program you mentioned is available
to the public. Thanks for the heads up.
It's on my watch list!
Matt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:25 AM Ken Green via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Certainly suspicious.
> But I wonder why it makes sense to dump fresh water into the Sacramento
> delta and then into the ocean to maintain the environment of a fish
> (the delta smelt) that appears headed to extinction, when the water
> could be used for agriculture that would reduce atmospheric CO2? If
> global warming is such a big deal it seems like we should grow more
> vegetation not save fish with no real value? A lot of what the
> government is doing just doesn't make much sense to me, so I can
> believe that pushing gas to ridiculous prices to satisfy
> environmentalists is not out of the question.
> Ken
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2020, 10:03:52 AM PDT, Jeff Detrich
> <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> I assume this may be from an oil industry supported source, but seems
> A A to have some basis.A A
> ____
> FYI, re:A A CO2 CoalitionA A
> Climate change deniers.
>
> [1][1]https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-co2-coalition-fact-checking-ads
> -fa
> ke-content-science-climate-change-1513311
>
> [2][2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CO2_Coalition#:~:text=The%20organiz
> ati
> on%20been%20funded%20by,Marshall%20Institute.
>
> [3][3]https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02/physicist-leading-trump-s
> -ad
> versarial-climate-review-also-led-group-touting-carbon
> Jeff
> 6559
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:52 AM Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> A A I assume this may be from an oil industry supported source,
> but
> seems
> A A to have some basis.
> A A [1]Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal Would Reach $13
> per
> Gallon
> A A A Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal Would Reach $13
> per
> Gallon
> A A Many of the Democrats running for President in 2020 support
> the Green
> A A A A A A A A New Deal that was introduced by
> Representa...
> References
> A A Visible links
> A A 1.
>
> [5][5]https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/gas-and-o
>
> il/gasoline-prices-under-the-green-new-deal-would-reach-13-per-gallo
> n/
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It all works together Ken, including theA fish withA "no real value".
Since this has morphed into a climate issue and not a political one I
would like to add something to the discussion.
As Terry noted facts and data will lead us to a better understanding of
the powers at play here on our little blue rock.
I recently watched an enlighteningA doc on Netflix called "Kiss the
Ground"A featuring Woody Harrelson.
It explains how the farming methods of the past have caught up with us
and contributes to excess Carbon being expelled to our atmosphere.
Through education and better understanding of how we've arrived at this
crisis point of human evolution we can hopefully help to reverse it.
There is another program on Netflix I would recommend by David
Attenborough called "A Life on OurA Planet".
Somehow it helps me to personally deal with global warming anxiety by
knowing exactly why we're screwed.
I have to force myself to watch these types of shows as it angers me to
no end.
They also offer some hope of the action necessaryA that could possibly
save us and the planet.A
I now realize that even though ICE emissions are a contributingA factor
to the destruction of our amazing biosphereA they are not the only
reason.
Learn from unbiasedA sources and stay away from politically motivated
opines!
Terry,
I did a search and found that the NASA program you mentioned is
available to the public. Thanks for the heads up.
It's on my watch list!
Matt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:25 AM Ken Green via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A Certainly suspicious.
A A But I wonder why it makes sense to dump fresh water into the
Sacramento
A A delta and then into the ocean to maintain the environment of a
fish
A A (the delta smelt) that appears headed to extinction, when the
water
A A could be used for agriculture that would reduce atmospheric
CO2?A If
A A global warming is such a big deal it seems like we should grow
more
A A vegetation not save fish with no real value?A A lot of what
the
A A government is doing just doesn't make much sense to me, so I
can
A A believe that pushing gas to ridiculous prices to satisfy
A A environmentalists is not out of the question.
A A Ken
A A On Monday, October 26, 2020, 10:03:52 AM PDT, Jeff Detrich
A A <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
A A A I assume this may be from an oil industry supported source,
but seems
A A A AA A to have some basis.A A
A A A ____
A A A FYI, re:AA A CO2 CoalitionA A
A A A Climate change deniers.
A
A [1][1][3]https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-co2-coalition-fact-chec
king-ads
A A -fa
A A A ke-content-science-climate-change-1513311
A
A [2][2][4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CO2_Coalition#:~:text=The%2
0organiz
A A ati
A A A on%20been%20funded%20by,Marshall%20Institute.
A
A [3][3][5]https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02/physicist-leading
-trump-s
A A -ad
A A A versarial-climate-review-also-led-group-touting-carbon
A A A Jeff
A A A 6559
A A A On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:52 AM Ken Green via DeTomaso
A A A <[4][4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A A A AA A I assume this may be from an oil industry supported
source,
A A but
A A A A seems
A A A A AA A to have some basis.
A A A A AA A [1]Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal Would
Reach $13
A A per
A A A A Gallon
A A A A AA AA A Gasoline Prices Under the Green New Deal Would
Reach $13
A A per
A A A A Gallon
A A A A AA AA Many of the Democrats running for President in
2020 support
A A A A the Green
A A A A AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA New Deal that was
introduced by
A A A A Representa...
A A A A References
A A A A AA A Visible links
A A A A AA A 1.
A
A [5][5][7]https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/g
as-and-o
A
A il/gasoline-prices-under-the-green-new-deal-would-reach-13-per-gal
lo
A A A A n/
A A A A AA A Hidden links:
A A A A AA A 3.
A
A [6][6][8]https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/g
as-and-o
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lo
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