[DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of production

[Charles Engles]

Dear Mirril,

 

            Despite my presumption that the Marti bunch is a marginal organization, I am pleasantly surprised to learn that they did provide professional and responsive service when you contacted them.   That is good news.

 

                             Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

 

From: Mirril McMullen [mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:27 AM
To: Julian Kift; 'Charles Engles'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of production

 

Well,

 

I'm not trashing Marti.

 

All the other details on the report were more info then I had originally.

 

When I asked them for the correction, they were very professional and I have no complaints with their service. 

 

Color is really the only wildcard that I am aware of when it comes to decoding the VIN.

 

That allows us to paint our cars any color we want,

 

If I owned a 70 HEMI Cuda, I wouldn't have that flexibility ;-(

 

/\/\   

-----Original Message----- 
From: Julian Kift 
Sent: Oct 19, 2020 8:50 PM 
To: Mirril McMullen , 'Charles Engles' , "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of production 

That sure casts some doubt on the authenticity of Marti reports, which have been regarded as gospel by so many marques for so long!

 

Julian

 

  _____  

From: Mirril McMullen <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'Charles Engles' <cengles at cox.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of production 

 

For the record......

There is no paint identifier on the VIN plate or that can be decoded from
the VIN.

My 74 was originally silver.

I sent for the Marti report and they told me my car was originally red.

I then sent them proof that my car was Silver not Red originally (long story
on how I proved it).

Marti turned around and promptly sent me a corrected Marti report.

Who was collecting these?

/\/\

#6859 WAYBAC



-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 3:43 PM
To: Charles Engles; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
production

Chuck,

I thought Marti Reports have the "yours is one of XX silver Panteras
produced in 19XX" statement. Wasn't Michael Shortt working on collecting all
the available Marti Report data into a database at one point, was that under
his tenure with POCA and shared or an individual effort?

Julian

________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:16 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of production

Dear Forum,



            A Pantera friend is interested in learning how many silver
Panteras were made in '73 and '74.   I've checked my books and google
without success.



           I *think* that info Is out there.  Would anyone know the answer
about the silver Pantera production numbers or where to ferret it out?





                               Warmest regards, Chuck Engles



 

/\/\///

 

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   Dear Mirril,


               Despite my presumption that the Marti bunch is a marginal
   organization, I am pleasantly surprised to learn that they did provide
   professional and responsive service when you contacted them.   That is
   good news.


                                Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


   From: Mirril McMullen [mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net]
   Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:27 AM
   To: Julian Kift; 'Charles Engles'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
   production


   Well,


   I'm not trashing Marti.


   All the other details on the report were more info then I had
   originally.


   When I asked them for the correction, they were very professional and I
   have no complaints with their service.


   Color is really the only wildcard that I am aware of when it comes to
   decoding the VIN.


   That allows us to paint our cars any color we want,


   If I owned a 70 HEMI Cuda, I wouldn't have that flexibility ;-(


   /\/\

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Julian Kift
   Sent: Oct 19, 2020 8:50 PM
   To: Mirril McMullen , 'Charles Engles' ,
   "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
   production

   That sure casts some doubt on the authenticity of Marti reports, which
   have been regarded as gospel by so many marques for so long!


   Julian

    _____________________________________________________________________

   From: Mirril McMullen <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
   Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:47 PM
   To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'Charles Engles'
   <cengles at cox.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
   production


   For the record......
   There is no paint identifier on the VIN plate or that can be decoded
   from
   the VIN.
   My 74 was originally silver.
   I sent for the Marti report and they told me my car was originally red.
   I then sent them proof that my car was Silver not Red originally (long
   story
   on how I proved it).
   Marti turned around and promptly sent me a corrected Marti report.
   Who was collecting these?
   /\/\
   #6859 WAYBAC
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 3:43 PM
   To: Charles Engles; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
   production
   Chuck,
   I thought Marti Reports have the "yours is one of XX silver Panteras
   produced in 19XX" statement. Wasn't Michael Shortt working on
   collecting all
   the available Marti Report data into a database at one point, was that
   under
   his tenure with POCA and shared or an individual effort?
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:16 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Trivia question: Factory colors and years of
   production
   Dear Forum,
               A Pantera friend is interested in learning how many silver
   Panteras were made in '73 and '74.   I've checked my books and google
   without success.
              I *think* that info Is out there.  Would anyone know the
   answer
   about the silver Pantera production numbers or where to ferret it out?
                                  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


/\/\///

References

   1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com