[DeTomaso] BaT: Non-running survivor '74 sells for $95K
Will Kooiman
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Fri Nov 6 07:11:34 EST 2020
Understood.
>From experience, if you don't have metal hanging out somewhere you just weren't trying hard enough.
If this is going to a collector, and not a driver, it would be pretty easy to pull the engine, do a basic rebuild, get all of the paint, small bits, etc. correct, and maybe not even put oil back into it. Just push it around in your showroom garage.
Btw, I've been in the Miami/FLL area for about 8 years now. I have a sheet of unpainted perforated metal sitting in my garage. It's similar to the engine cover in a Pantera. It has been there for about 5 years, and it is just now starting to rust - barely. I'm in the garage almost every weekend, door up, etc. No A/C. I'm 8 miles from the beach. Oh, and we get a lot of rain, especially during hurricane season. Cars don't rust where I live. You never see rusty cars either. It's probably different at the beach, I'm sure, or if you have salt water access behind your house. There are channels 1-2 miles from the beach, so people can have a real home and get to the ocean in their boats. My point is I wouldn't be concerned about rust on a FL car unless it lived in the Keys. It's less of a risk than a car that has lived in the ice/snow, anyway.
The other weird thing is this area is the polishing/show crowd. Not many people drive old cars. There are lots of Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Porsches, Vipers, ricers, Teslas, etc., but you mostly see old cars in garages and at the car show. I saw a nice Pantera at an exotic garage last weekend, btw. It was a GT5-S conversion - L dash, pre-L bumpers, 351W, nitrous.
On 11/5/20, 12:15 PM, "Mike Drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
Will,
Suspected spun bearing = blowed up, as far as I’m concerned. The block and heads etc are salvageable but it will still need a full rebuild unless somebody goes cheap Charlie and just does rings and bearings.
Mike
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> On Nov 5, 2020, at 16:29, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Did it say blown or non-running?
>
> This will go to a collector not a driver, so who really cares if the engine runs? And if it doesn't, it would be easy to rebuild - which you'd probably do anyway on a new purchase.
>
> On 11/5/20, 1:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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> All,
>
> Personally I think the seller hit it out of the park with this one. With a blown engine I would have guessed maybe $55k, tops....
>
> Mike
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>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 23:53, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>> I shouldn't be such a critic. There are plenty of things not original
>> or definitely well-used to know this car most likely has more than
>> 9,000 miles on it. I compiled a list but why bother sharing, you've
>> probably noted those items already.
>> Yes, it had slight body damage and a repaint (noted in receipt). Yes,
>> it shows original Arriva's but notes indicate they didn't come with the
>> car when traded in earlier. Some engine parts aren't original, but it
>> looks like some original parts come with it.
>> I'm probably about as cheap as they get. I probably wouldn't have paid
>> $95K for this car, but it does appear to be in relatively good shape.
>> I would say it's in -some- better shape than 5533 when I bought it, but
>> there are other aspects (mechanically) that I can't verify.
>> The nice thing is that it doesn't look molested to a point of no
>> return. It's really close to stock if a person wanted to go that
>> route, or it's a nice base model to start from and make it your own,
>> which is what I would do, as tastefully as I could and as I did with
>> 5533 (for the most part).
>> I'm sure the buyer is probably thrilled and that's fine. They spent
>> what they felt it was worth to them and I hope they come here to
>> experience the wealth of knowledge and experience this group gives out,
>> to make the new owners experience the best it can be.
>> Asa Jay
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>> On 11/4/2020 16:50, Michael Becker wrote:
>>
>> The key reason perhaps being the alleged actual 9,000 miles on the
>> odo.A I'm not convinced, but some of the picture do appear to show
>> very light wear, while others show quite heavy wear.A A It is alleged
>> to have not moved for 25 years,A but I suspect it moved more than 9k
>> during its first 25 years.A
>> MikeA
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 12:42 Mike & Elizabeth [3]<[1]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
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>> A _source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_watch
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>> A A sting_ended
>> A A Seems like a rather high price for a non-running car that will
>> need to
>> A A be thoroughly gone through to enjoy, unless plans are to roll
>> it around
>> A A as a survivor only.A Not my choice. . . .
>> A A It is the right color though.
>> A A Mike Thomas
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