[DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: Dash Removal

Sat May 16 21:13:32 EDT 2020

Can you put it into Dropbox?  Then send a link out?  

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On 5/16/20, 1:13 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of steve at snclocks.com" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

    With the guidance from Rob DuMoulin, Larry Finch, Jack DeRyke and several
    others I got my dash out, replaced the fan motor, and got it all back
    together and it works!  

    I put together a pdf of the steps, including photos.  Since it is 11MB, one
    cannot share it via this list.  I would be happy to send it to anyone who
    would like to see how I removed the dash from our '73.

    Stephen Nelson

    -----Original Message-----
    From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
    steve at snclocks.com
    Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:26 PM
    To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash Removal

    A big thank you to all that gave me guidance on getting the heater blower
    motor out.  Not that it's out, but the dash is out.  I followed the write-up
    that Rob DuMoulin was kind enough to send me - he wrote up the steps for his
    '71.  Turns out our '73 was quite a bit easier.

    Apparently the earlier dashes had tabs to the back of the dash pad that are
    screwed to the bodywork - which necessitates removing the tach/speedo and
    the glove box.  Our 73 didn't have these tabs, so the three items stayed in
    place.  After pulling the center console, rocking back and down the gauge
    panel, dropping and unplugging the steering column, and disconnecting the
    rest of the screws that Rob identified, I was able to slide the dash back
    far enough to reach in and unplug the multi-prong plugs that go to the tach,
    speedo and emergency flasher switch as well as disconnect the speedo cable.
    Next I disconnected the passenger-side defrost vent tube, and the wires to
    the under-dash center lights and the wiper/washer switches and out she came!
    Oh, also removed the upholstered covers for the A pillars so they would not
    be in the way.

    Overall, much easier than I feared.  And no plastic spacer blocks to keep
    track of!

    Now to fight with the heater fan.

    Stephen Nelson

    -----Original Message-----
    From: billmoore6480 at gmail.com <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
    Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:36 PM
    To: jderyke at aol.com; steve at snclocks.com
    Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Dash Removal

    "takes small tools".....  I have seen Stephen's very small lathe

    Cheers

    Bill Moore
    Calgary Ab. / Goodyear Az.
    403.860.4300

    -----Original Message-----
    From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Jack
    DeRyke via DeTomaso
    Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 2:28 PM
    To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash Removal

    There are 4 slotted screws (on our car they looked like wood screws) that
    hold the dash; one at each end and two in the middle. The end ones have
    white plastic spacer-blocks that fall on the rug when the screws are pulled,
    so its not obvious where they go. But it IS possible to R & R the fan ass'y
    without pulling the dash. Someone in Nor-Cal told me he did it so I tried
    and sure enough- it can be done, with difficulty. 

    But you're working blind and unless you really know the layout of the split
    motor mount and its screws, it will be very difficult & takes small tools.
    Actually extracting the motor once its loose is tricky, too. Keep track of
    how things come out as you go because I found its possible to reinstall the
    motor with the squirrel cage fans backward and seriously reduce airflow.
    Then you get to repeat the whole exercise. 2nd time is a bit easier....

    The only time the dash absolutely must come out is if you need to work on
    the ac/heater box. Gerry Romack likes to modify the inside of the boxes for
    better airflow thru the two cores. Directions on Great Lakes Pantera
    website. There are also directions for dash removal on Mike Daily's Monster
    Web Site and in the Pantera Service Highlights manual. Good luck.

    -----Original Message-----
    To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    Sent: Mon, May 4, 2020 12:42 pm
    Subject: [DeTomaso] Dash Removal

      It is amusing how, when you go through the interior and install new
      leather, something else decides it wants attention.  In this way, a car
      is like our cats - pet one, and another will demand attention.

      Not sure why, but the blower fan now only wants to start up it one taps
      it gently.  Or spins the squirrel cages.  Likely a problem with the
      motor brushes.  Which, from what I read, means pulling the dash.  So,
      any words of wisdom on pulling the dash?  Our car is a '73, single pod
      car, serial 5332.  From what I read online it sounds like earlier
      dashes had screws that were accessible through the glove-box and above
      the tach/speedo.  I can't see anything above the glove box, and it
      seems like the passenger side of the dash is pretty loose after
      removing the slotted screw on the end of the dash, as well as the screw
      below the end of the dash and the one connecting to the center
      console.  If these three screws are removed on the drivers side, and if
      I drop the steering column, will the dash be loose?

      Stephen Nelson
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