[DeTomaso] Paint code for the Argent Silver used on the Campy wheels
Garth Rodericks
garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 9 12:36:30 EDT 2020
Thanks for digging up that old post and sharing it Vinh! Good info! Just thought I'd add an afterthought...
The one nice thing about painting the wheels with the Eastwood Argent Silver (or any rattle-can paint) is that it's very easy to touch up should your wheels show wear or - heaven forbid - suffer a curb scrape. Powder coated wheels cannot easily be touched up, but then again the paint shouldn't wear off like rattle-can paint, as long as you don't scrape curbs! :)
Cheers!
Garth#4033
----- original message -----Mike,
I found the following old post from Garth Rodericks detailing his experience:
> Ford TSB, Bulletin #11, Article 92.
> Service Paint - Magnesium Wheels Color: Argent Silver
> Ditzler Part No.: DX8555
> HOWEVER, when I first restored my wheels, I couldn't find that paint
> from any local supplier - it's an obsolete number with no current cross
> reference. However, I've subsequently been told that the old Ditzler
> color code DX8555 cross references to a new color code: DAR33772 Silver
> Poly.
> Note: The following info is from a Chrysler board as they use the same
> paint code for various parts. The Light Textured Argent, part number
> DX 8555, is obsolete. Medium Textured Argent, part number DNA 8933, can
> sometimes be found at larger, older Ditzler dealers. Last used in the
> mid 1970's, it is now all but obsolete. Older Ditzler dealers that have
> remaining stock can mix this paint for you, but it can also be mixed
> from currently available paints. Here's how...
>
> LIGHT ARGENT TEXTURED
> Ingredients for 1 pint (double for quart)
> 1/2 ounce DX 204 - Radiance Silver
> 1/2 ounce DDL 8568 - Non Smudge Aluminum/aluminum base
> 3 1/2 ounces DCA 468 High Performance Clear
> Add 4 ounces of top grade lacquer thinner with drying time according to
> temperature. Mix thoroughly and pour in 1 pint touch up gun. Use 10
> clean 1/4" ball bearings in paint cup to keep the paint mixed. Use
> three light coats over an existing finish or four to six coats over
> unfinished parts. This paint runs VERY easily, allow 5-10 minutes
> between coats.
>
> MEDIUM ARGENT TEXTURED
> The steps are exactly as above, but add black lacquer to darken. Start
> with six drops per pint and stir thoroughly, then spray a sample to
> compare to the original finish. Add a drop at a time until you achieve
> the correct tint. Spray these paints at 55-60 lbs. keeping the gun
> 18-30 inches from the surface. Frequently agitate the mixture to
> maintain uniform consistency because the Radiance Silver is heavy and
> will settle out quickly. Also, Year One sells part #QP323, which is
> Chrysler rally wheel paint, and part #QP8575, which is the textured
> light argent silver paint used on Chrysler grilles and rally wheel
> center caps. Both are sold in quart cans.
>
> Plastikote Spray Paint
> Paint A fellow club member used Plasti-Kote "1001 Bright Silver Metal"
> in an 11 oz. spray can and reports that it was a good match, and an
> economical option for repainting original Campys! The label on the can
> said "Plasti-Kote Body Shop Paint, for Painting Doors, Fenders, Hoods
> and Other Large Panels on Cars, Trucks & Vans". This paint seems to be
> very forgiving when it comes to runs and sags, and giving a run a
> little more spray seems to make it lay down smooth.
> Technique: You need about 60 inches of 6 inch wide aluminum flashing -
> comes in a roll at your local home improvement store. Unroll the
> flashing and form a ring that just fits outside the wheel rim and
> snugly down onto the tire. The wheel needs to be off the car and laying
> flat on a piece of newspaper or cardboard to keep the floor or driveway
> from turning silver. Clamp the ring with a pair of vice grips to hold
> it to the correct diameter. Don1t worry about the flashing over lapping
> itself that usually helps it hold it's shape. Mask off the valve stem
> and spray away.
> Note that Plasti-Kote also lists an Argent Silver (#621) on their
> website, but I have no idea if it's close to the color we need for
> Campys; it might be worth getting a can to test.
> And here's an article on wheel restoration that everyone should read...
>
> Restoring Magnesium Campagnolo Wheels the Right Way
> http://www.poca.com/detomaso/2000-06/1205.html
> by Mike Drew and Jack DeRyke
>
> Eastwood Light Argent Silver
> I used Eastwood's Argent Silver then coated with Eastwood semi-gloss
> clear to facilitate easy cleaning. My Campys looked perfect. Others
> have misted with Eastwood's Cad Silver between the Argent Silver and
> the semi-gloss clear for a "perfect" finish, but I found the light
> argent silver straight from the can looked pretty near perfect,
> especially when coated with Eastwood Diamond Clear (satin finish).
> FWIW, I spent about $200 on stripper, Zinc Chromate Primer, Eastwood
> Silver Argent and Diamond Clear paint, and then invested countless
> hours annealling the wheels and doing all the dirty work.
>
> Powder Coating Wheels at Home
> I was very disappointed with the durability of the Eastwood paint (see
> the 3rd picture in the following link), so I decided to powder coat my
> wheels, at home. Check out this thread for my pictures:
> [1]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456
> /p/1
> The color I used was Silver Metallic 30% Gloss (T353-GR06) from
> Cardinal Paint and Powder. It's a pretty darn close match to the
> Eastwood Argent Silver (and the original color), but I wouldn't say
> it's a "perfect" match. Although, close enough for me! Eastwood offers
> Argent Silver Powder paint, so theirs might be a perfect match.
> In the "close up beauty shot" at the bottom of the first page of the
> powder coating thread you can see some of the "coated in a plastic
> finish" look around the cast "campagnolo" name that Paul mentioned in
> his post.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033 - the Banzai Runner Pantera
>
> References
>
> 1. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456/p/1
>
Regards,
Vinh
#7445
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Thanks for digging up that old post and sharing it Vinh! Good info!
Just thought I'd add an afterthought...
The one nice thing about painting the wheels with the Eastwood Argent
Silver (or any rattle-can paint) is that it's very easy to touch up
should your wheels show wear or - heaven forbid - suffer a curb
scrape. Powder coated wheels cannot easily be touched up, but then
again the paint shouldn't wear off like rattle-can paint, as long as
you don't scrape curbs! :)
Cheers!
Garth
#4033
----- original message -----
Mike,
I found the following old post from Garth Rodericks detailing his experience:
> Ford TSB, Bulletin #11, Article 92.
> Service Paint - Magnesium Wheels Color: Argent Silver
> Ditzler Part No.: DX8555
> HOWEVER, when I first restored my wheels, I couldn't find that paint
> from any local supplier - it's an obsolete number with no current cross
> reference. However, I've subsequently been told that the old Ditzler
> color code DX8555 cross references to a new color code: DAR33772 Silver
> Poly.
> Note: The following info is from a Chrysler board as they use the same
> paint code for various parts. The Light Textured Argent, part number
> DX 8555, is obsolete. Medium Textured Argent, part number DNA 8933, can
> sometimes be found at larger, older Ditzler dealers. Last used in the
> mid 1970's, it is now all but obsolete. Older Ditzler dealers that have
> remaining stock can mix this paint for you, but it can also be mixed
> from currently available paints. Here's how...
>
> LIGHT ARGENT TEXTURED
> Ingredients for 1 pint (double for quart)
> 1/2 ounce DX 204 - Radiance Silver
> 1/2 ounce DDL 8568 - Non Smudge Aluminum/aluminum base
> 3 1/2 ounces DCA 468 High Performance Clear
> Add 4 ounces of top grade lacquer thinner with drying time according to
> temperature. Mix thoroughly and pour in 1 pint touch up gun. Use 10
> clean 1/4" ball bearings in paint cup to keep the paint mixed. Use
> three light coats over an existing finish or four to six coats over
> unfinished parts. This paint runs VERY easily, allow 5-10 minutes
> between coats.
>
> MEDIUM ARGENT TEXTURED
> The steps are exactly as above, but add black lacquer to darken. Start
> with six drops per pint and stir thoroughly, then spray a sample to
> compare to the original finish. Add a drop at a time until you achieve
> the correct tint. Spray these paints at 55-60 lbs. keeping the gun
> 18-30 inches from the surface. Frequently agitate the mixture to
> maintain uniform consistency because the Radiance Silver is heavy and
> will settle out quickly. Also, Year One sells part #QP323, which is
> Chrysler rally wheel paint, and part #QP8575, which is the textured
> light argent silver paint used on Chrysler grilles and rally wheel
> center caps. Both are sold in quart cans.
>
> Plastikote Spray Paint
> Paint A fellow club member used Plasti-Kote "1001 Bright Silver Metal"
> in an 11 oz. spray can and reports that it was a good match, and an
> economical option for repainting original Campys! The label on the can
> said "Plasti-Kote Body Shop Paint, for Painting Doors, Fenders, Hoods
> and Other Large Panels on Cars, Trucks & Vans". This paint seems to be
> very forgiving when it comes to runs and sags, and giving a run a
> little more spray seems to make it lay down smooth.
> Technique: You need about 60 inches of 6 inch wide aluminum flashing -
> comes in a roll at your local home improvement store. Unroll the
> flashing and form a ring that just fits outside the wheel rim and
> snugly down onto the tire. The wheel needs to be off the car and laying
> flat on a piece of newspaper or cardboard to keep the floor or driveway
> from turning silver. Clamp the ring with a pair of vice grips to hold
> it to the correct diameter. Don1t worry about the flashing over lapping
> itself that usually helps it hold it's shape. Mask off the valve stem
> and spray away.
> Note that Plasti-Kote also lists an Argent Silver (#621) on their
> website, but I have no idea if it's close to the color we need for
> Campys; it might be worth getting a can to test.
> And here's an article on wheel restoration that everyone should read...
>
> Restoring Magnesium Campagnolo Wheels the Right Way
> [1]http://www.poca.com/detomaso/2000-06/1205.html
> by Mike Drew and Jack DeRyke
>
> Eastwood Light Argent Silver
> I used Eastwood's Argent Silver then coated with Eastwood semi-gloss
> clear to facilitate easy cleaning. My Campys looked perfect. Others
> have misted with Eastwood's Cad Silver between the Argent Silver and
> the semi-gloss clear for a "perfect" finish, but I found the light
> argent silver straight from the can looked pretty near perfect,
> especially when coated with Eastwood Diamond Clear (satin finish).
> FWIW, I spent about $200 on stripper, Zinc Chromate Primer, Eastwood
> Silver Argent and Diamond Clear paint, and then invested countless
> hours annealling the wheels and doing all the dirty work.
>
> Powder Coating Wheels at Home
> I was very disappointed with the durability of the Eastwood paint (see
> the 3rd picture in the following link), so I decided to powder coat my
> wheels, at home. Check out this thread for my pictures:
> [1][2]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456
> /p/1
> The color I used was Silver Metallic 30% Gloss (T353-GR06) from
> Cardinal Paint and Powder. It's a pretty darn close match to the
> Eastwood Argent Silver (and the original color), but I wouldn't say
> it's a "perfect" match. Although, close enough for me! Eastwood offers
> Argent Silver Powder paint, so theirs might be a perfect match.
> In the "close up beauty shot" at the bottom of the first page of the
> powder coating thread you can see some of the "coated in a plastic
> finish" look around the cast "campagnolo" name that Paul mentioned in
> his post.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033 - the Banzai Runner Pantera
>
> References
>
> 1. [3]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456/
p/1
>
Regards,
Vinh
#7445
References
1. http://www.poca.com/detomaso/2000-06/1205.html
2. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456
3. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456/p/1
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