[DeTomaso] Seatbelts

Steve Lisa stevelisa at patentit.com
Fri Feb 28 13:16:46 EST 2020


Julian -- we run a full competition cage in our Pantera (GRP3 racer) and it
is designed to give full head clearance for both my son and I (under 5'
10").  However the floor was lowered under the seats and the cage was
custom designed.   We have no helmet contact - -but it is close.   I will
try to upload pictures over the weekend.
Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:12 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>    A cage in a confined cockpit car like a Pantera is perilously close to
>    one's head and with no helmet the cage is just as likely to do more
>    harm than good in an accident. There is tragic story of GT40 owner who
>    died from head injuries sustained against a cage in a relatively minor
>    shunt, that should have been survivable without a cage.
>
>    Julian
>      __________________________________________________________________
>
>    From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>    Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>    Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 4:56 PM
>    To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Jack DeRyke
>    <jderyke at aol.com>
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Seatbelts
>
>    Attached are few couple pics of "hearsay 1" - a couple from the day
>    before at Concorso I believe, then the day after...  You'd never know
>    it's the same car.
>    Although I heard it reported that the section of highway had some
>    rolling dips so to speak, which would unload the suspension; there was
>    also a cross-wind, so the car got blown right off the road when the
>    suspension unloaded at the super-illegal speeds.
>    The owner was quite fortunate.  Injuries were more than a broken wrist
>    and concussion, but not what you would expect after seeing the car.
>    Arguably, he would not have survived if he had a 4- or 5-point race
>    harness since the car had no roll-bar or cage.  The stock 3-point
>    harness allowed his body to get pushed over to the right as the roof
>    was collapsed onto the seatback.
>    Something to think about before putting racing harnesses in car that's
>    not equipped with a cage.
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   Julian -- we run a full competition cage in our Pantera (GRP3 racer)
   and it is designed to give full head clearance for both my son and I
   (under 5' 10").A  However the floor was lowered under the seats and the
   cage was custom designed.A  A We have no helmet contact - -but it is
   close.A  A I will try to upload pictures over the weekend.A A
   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [1]www.PatentIt.com
   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.

   On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:12 AM Julian Kift
   <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

     A  A A cage in a confined cockpit car like a Pantera is perilously
     close to
     A  A one's head and with no helmet the cage is just as likely to do
     more
     A  A harm than good in an accident. There is tragic story of GT40
     owner who
     A  A died from head injuries sustained against a cage in a
     relatively minor
     A  A shunt, that should have been survivable without a cage.
     A  A Julian
     A  A
     A __________________________________________________________________
     A  A From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
     A  A Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
     <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     A  A Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 4:56 PM
     A  A To: DeTomaso Mail List <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
     Jack DeRyke
     A  A <[6]jderyke at aol.com>
     A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Seatbelts
     A  A Attached are few couple pics of "hearsay 1" - a couple from the
     day
     A  A before at Concorso I believe, then the day after...A  You'd
     never know
     A  A it's the same car.
     A  A Although I heard it reported that the section of highway had
     some
     A  A rolling dips so to speak, which would unload the suspension;
     there was
     A  A also a cross-wind, so the car got blown right off the road when
     the
     A  A suspension unloaded at the super-illegal speeds.
     A  A The owner was quite fortunate.A  Injuries were more than a
     broken wrist
     A  A and concussion, but not what you would expect after seeing the
     car.
     A  A Arguably, he would not have survived if he had a 4- or 5-point
     race
     A  A harness since the car had no roll-bar or cage.A  The stock
     3-point
     A  A harness allowed his body to get pushed over to the right as the
     roof
     A  A was collapsed onto the seatback.
     A  A Something to think about before putting racing harnesses in car
     that's
     A  A not equipped with a cage.
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