[DeTomaso] Seatbelts

[Julian Kift]

Corey,

Be sure to get a 5 or 6 point harness and not settle fora 4 point that doesn't have the submarine belt. Anchoring for a 5 point isn't ideal in the Pantera and much easier if you have a seat with the cut out for the submarine belt.

I switched from 5 point back to a simple 3 point stock style seat belt last summer and really happy with my choice. My reasons were 1.) I'm long legged and with the 5 point harness properly adjusted I could not reach the ignition switch 2. It's a PITA if you take different passengers frequently to constantly adjust the harness 3.) Unless you seat is relatively low back or has the cutouts for shoulder belts the harness bar does not place the shoulder straps in a great position, especially if they have to 'wrap' around the outside edge of the seat. 4.) Most everyday folks do not adjust a harness properly to be any real effect in an accident, it really does need to be cinched down to the point your body movements are restricted. 5). The harness bar really needs additional intermediate anchoring over the the two bolts at the ends to be safe.

I would assess your track use frequency and consider installing the harness bar and appropriate seat for each track event and use a street system for the street.

Julian

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seatbelts

Corey,

If you want regular seat belts, these:

http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&item=21249

Otherwise get one of these:

http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&item=21449

And five-point harnesses from Summit or some racer supply house.

I have used five-point harnesses for work and play all my adult life so they are second nature to me. But I can’t argue against the simplicity of stock-style three-point belts.....

Mike

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> On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:42, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have seatbelts currently. I have Recaro seats and I plan to take the Pantera to the track occasionally, but mostly drive it on the street. I'm looking for seatbelt recommendations.
>
> Corey
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   Corey,

   Be sure to get a 5 or 6 point harness and not settle fora 4 point that
   doesn't have the submarine belt. Anchoring for a 5 point isn't ideal in
   the Pantera and much easier if you have a seat with the cut out for the
   submarine belt.

   I switched from 5 point back to a simple 3 point stock style seat belt
   last summer and really happy with my choice. My reasons were 1.) I'm
   long legged and with the 5 point harness properly adjusted I could not
   reach the ignition switch 2. It's a PITA if you take different
   passengers frequently to constantly adjust the harness 3.) Unless you
   seat is relatively low back or has the cutouts for shoulder belts the
   harness bar does not place the shoulder straps in a great position,
   especially if they have to 'wrap' around the outside edge of the seat.
   4.) Most everyday folks do not adjust a harness properly to be any real
   effect in an accident, it really does need to be cinched down to the
   point your body movements are restricted. 5). The harness bar really
   needs additional intermediate anchoring over the the two bolts at the
   ends to be safe.

   I would assess your track use frequency and consider installing the
   harness bar and appropriate seat for each track event and use a street
   system for the street.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:52 AM
   To: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   Cc: Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seatbelts

   Corey,
   If you want regular seat belts, these:
   [1]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
   item=21249
   Otherwise get one of these:
   [2]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
   item=21449
   And five-point harnesses from Summit or some racer supply house.
   I have used five-point harnesses for work and play all my adult life so
   they are second nature to me. But I can't argue against the simplicity
   of stock-style three-point belts.....
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:42, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > I don't have seatbelts currently. I have Recaro seats and I plan to
   take the Pantera to the track occasionally, but mostly drive it on the
   street. I'm looking for seatbelt recommendations.
   >
   > Corey
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References

   1. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&item=21249
   2. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&item=21449
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