[DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: BAT
larry at ohiotimecorp.com
larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Mon Feb 17 11:50:35 EST 2020
Guys as always you knowledge and input is outstanding.
I will list the T-Bird with BaT in May and hope for the best.
Need the money and SPACE to maybe start working on my Pantera!!
Larry (way too long of a Project) - Cleveland
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Dave Londry
Sent: February 15, 2020 1:53 PM
To: detomasolist <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: BAT
That sounds odd. BAT has a simple Seller Reserve Price setting.
I don't know why the seller didn't use it.
It's not unusual for a deal to be completed after a reserve-no sale.
(and all BAT gets is the $99 listing price)
dave
On 2020-02-15 8:39 a.m., Julian Kift wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for that information, I'm happy to hear it worked out for both
> parties, but alarmed that BaT wouldn't at least be made aware. It
> skews average sales price at best and is dishonest practice by the
> seller at worst.
>
> So along with Tom's input seems BaT does have some occasional issues;
> there are deadbeats everywhere I guess and unfortunately the era we
> grew up in where a mans word and a handshake are good is rapidly
> diminishing.
>
> Julian
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2020 8:08 AM
> *To:* Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; davel at trguys.com
> <davel at trguys.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] BAT
> Julian,
>
> A PCNC member won a BaT auction on a nice Pantera for $66k but the
> buyer refused to honor the deal. The car was genuinely worth more and
> both knew it. The buyer had to cough up thousands extra (I forget how
> much) before the seller would complete the transaction. The buyer was
> philosophical as he still got a good car at a fair price.
>
> I don’t think anybody made BaT aware of it. The seller does sign a
> legally binding contract with BaT so I suppose they could have
> enforced it somehow?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 15, 2020, at 06:50, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer,
> >they
> > automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from
> >the
> > buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to
> >complete
> > the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never
> >heard of
> > non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and
> >backed
> > out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more
> >binding
> > then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there
> >is
> > more of a commitment up front.
> >
> > That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never
> > transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to
> >no
> > accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest
> advertising
> > medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest
> >cost
> > (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know
> how to
> > market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos
> >and
> > apply a one sentence description.
> >
> > Julian
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> >behalf of
> > Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
> > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT
> >
> > Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
> > BAT actually manages the sale process.
> > Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in -
> over the
> > wall,
> > and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their
> >automated
> > nanny programs.
> > Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.
> > Dave
> >> On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> >> Larry,
> >>
> >> I sold my mom's `65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were
> > magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller
> >whether
> > it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is
> > transparent to you.
> >>
> >> They will not accept just anything--you have to apply to sell your
> > car there. They will certainly accept anything interesting like
> >your
> > car, but the `83 Toyota Corolla won't cut it. You wrote the ad
> copy and
> > they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the
> draft
> > and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with
> you to
> > establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be
> > objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their
> analysis was
> > spot on.
> >>
> >> My mom's car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However
> > BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were
> >able
> > to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received
> > nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction,
> even
> > though they facilitated the sale.
> >>
> >> Very gentlemanly people there.....
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
> > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
> >>>
> >>> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national
> > add.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry - Cleveland
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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