[DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: BAT

larry at ohiotimecorp.com larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Mon Feb 17 11:50:35 EST 2020


Guys as always you knowledge and input is outstanding.

I will list the T-Bird with BaT in May and hope for the best.
Need the money and SPACE to maybe start working on my Pantera!!


Larry (way too long of a Project) - Cleveland



-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Dave Londry
Sent: February 15, 2020 1:53 PM
To: detomasolist <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: BAT


That sounds odd. BAT has a simple Seller Reserve Price setting.
I don't know why the seller didn't use it.
It's not unusual for a deal to be completed after a reserve-no sale.

(and all BAT gets is the $99 listing price)

dave


On 2020-02-15 8:39 a.m., Julian Kift wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for that information, I'm happy to hear it worked out for both 
> parties, but alarmed that BaT wouldn't at least be made aware. It 
> skews average sales price at best and is dishonest practice by the 
> seller at worst.
>
> So along with Tom's input seems BaT does have some occasional issues; 
> there are deadbeats everywhere I guess and unfortunately the era we 
> grew up in where a mans word and a handshake are good is rapidly 
> diminishing.
>
> Julian
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2020 8:08 AM
> *To:* Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; davel at trguys.com 
> <davel at trguys.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] BAT
> Julian,
>
> A PCNC member won a BaT auction on a nice Pantera for $66k but the 
> buyer refused to honor the deal. The car was genuinely worth more and 
> both knew it. The buyer had to cough up thousands extra (I forget how
> much) before the seller would complete the transaction. The buyer was 
> philosophical as he still got a good car at a fair price.
>
> I don’t think anybody made BaT aware of it. The seller does sign a 
> legally binding contract with BaT so I suppose they could have 
> enforced it somehow?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 15, 2020, at 06:50, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >    I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer, 
> >they
> >   automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from 
> >the
> >   buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to 
> >complete
> >   the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never 
> >heard of
> >   non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and 
> >backed
> >   out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more 
> >binding
> >   then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there 
> >is
> >   more of a commitment up front.
> >
> >   That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never
> >   transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to 
> >no
> >   accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest
> advertising
> >   medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest 
> >cost
> >   (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know
> how to
> >   market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos 
> >and
> >   apply a one sentence description.
> >
> >   Julian
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on 
> >behalf of
> >   Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
> >   Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
> >   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT
> >
> >   Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
> >   BAT  actually manages the sale process.
> >   Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in -
> over the
> >   wall,
> >   and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their 
> >automated
> >   nanny programs.
> >   Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.
> >   Dave
> >>   On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> >> Larry,
> >>
> >> I sold my mom's `65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were
> >   magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller 
> >whether
> >   it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is
> >   transparent to you.
> >>
> >> They will not accept just anything--you have to apply to sell your
> >   car there.  They will certainly accept anything interesting like 
> >your
> >   car, but the `83 Toyota Corolla won't cut it. You wrote the ad
> copy and
> >   they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the
> draft
> >   and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with
> you to
> >   establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be
> >   objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their
> analysis was
> >   spot on.
> >>
> >> My mom's car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However
> >   BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were 
> >able
> >   to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received
> >   nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction,
> even
> >   though they facilitated the sale.
> >>
> >> Very gentlemanly people there.....
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
> > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
> >>>
> >>> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national
> >   add.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry - Cleveland
> >>>
> >>>
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