[DeTomaso] BAT

Tom Shinrock tmshinro at aol.com
Sat Feb 15 10:23:48 EST 2020 

Saw recent BAT auction that stated the car was being relisted because the winning bidder backed out of the sale.  BAT stated that they kept the buyer's fee and banned the individual from bidding on any other auctions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; davel at trguys.com <davel at trguys.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2020 8:50 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BAT

  I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer, they
  automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from the
  buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to complete
  the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never heard of
  non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and backed
  out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more binding
  then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there is
  more of a commitment up front.

  That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never
  transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to no
  accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest advertising
  medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest cost
  (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know how to
  market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos and
  apply a one sentence description.

  Julian
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  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
  Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
  Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT

  Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
  BAT  actually manages the sale process.
  Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in - over the
  wall,
  and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their automated
  nanny programs.
  Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.
  Dave
  On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
  > Larry,
  >
  > I sold my mom's `65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were
  magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller whether
  it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is
  transparent to you.
  >
  > They will not accept just anything--you have to apply to sell your
  car there.  They will certainly accept anything interesting like your
  car, but the `83 Toyota Corolla won't cut it. You wrote the ad copy and
  they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the draft
  and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with you to
  establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be
  objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their analysis was
  spot on.
  >
  > My mom's car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However
  BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were able
  to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received
  nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction, even
  though they facilitated the sale.
  >
  > Very gentlemanly people there.....
  >
  > Mike
  >
  > Sent from my iPad
  >
  >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
  <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
  >>
  >> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national
  add.
  >>
  >>
  >> Larry - Cleveland
  >>
  >>
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   Saw recent BAT auction that stated the car was being relisted because
   the winning bidder backed out of the sale.  BAT stated that they kept
   the buyer's fee and banned the individual from bidding on any other
   auctions.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; davel at trguys.com <davel at trguys.com>
   Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2020 8:50 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BAT
     I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer, they
     automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from the
     buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to complete
     the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never heard
   of
     non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and backed
     out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more binding
     then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there is
     more of a commitment up front.
     That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never
     transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to no
     accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest
   advertising
     medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest cost
     (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know how
   to
     market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos and
     apply a one sentence description.
     Julian
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
     Dave Londry <[2]davel at trguys.com>
     Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
     To: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT
     Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
     BAT  actually manages the sale process.
     Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in - over
   the
     wall,
     and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their automated
     nanny programs.
     Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.
     Dave
     On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
     > Larry,
     >
     > I sold my mom's `65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were
     magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller
   whether
     it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is
     transparent to you.
     >
     > They will not accept just anything--you have to apply to sell your
     car there.  They will certainly accept anything interesting like your
     car, but the `83 Toyota Corolla won't cut it. You wrote the ad copy
   and
     they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the
   draft
     and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with you
   to
     establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be
     objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their analysis
   was
     spot on.
     >
     > My mom's car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However
     BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were
   able
     to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received
     nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction,
   even
     though they facilitated the sale.
     >
     > Very gentlemanly people there.....
     >
     > Mike
     >
     > Sent from my iPad
     >
     >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
     <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     >>
     >> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
     >>
     >> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national
     add.
     >>
     >>
     >> Larry - Cleveland
     >>
     >>
     >>
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