[DeTomaso] BAT

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 15 09:50:29 EST 2020 

I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer, they automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from the buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to complete the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never heard of non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and backed out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more binding then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there is more of a commitment up front.

That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to no accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest advertising medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest cost (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know how to market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos and apply a one sentence description.

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT

Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
BAT  actually manages the sale process.
Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in - over the
wall,
and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their automated
nanny programs.
Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.

Dave

On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I sold my mom’s ‘65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller whether it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is transparent to you.
>
> They will not accept just anything—you have to apply to sell your car there.  They will certainly accept anything interesting like your car, but the ‘83 Toyota Corolla won’t cut it. You wrote the ad copy and they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the draft and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with you to establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their analysis was spot on.
>
> My mom’s car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were able to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction, even though they facilitated the sale.
>
> Very gentlemanly people there.....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
>>
>> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national add.
>>
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
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   I don't think BaT has much to do with the actual sale transfer, they
   automatically take their 5% buyers fee at the auction close from the
   buyers credit card on file and introduce buyer and seller to complete
   the transaction (unlike regular auction houses). I have never heard of
   non-completion of a sale on BaT, where seller had remorse and backed
   out, so can only assume BaT's terms and conditions are more binding
   then eBay's, plus they have access to buyers credit card, so there is
   more of a commitment up front.

   That's my bug with eBay, that items sell multiple times and never
   transact, buyer just doesn't come through and there is little to no
   accountability. That said I do believe eBay is the greatest advertising
   medium with highest exposure to the widest market for the lowest cost
   (assume listing cost only). The problem is many users don't know how to
   market an item, they take low quality bad light or angle photos and
   apply a one sentence description.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
   Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:19 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT

   Seconding Mikes opinion, Larry
   BAT  actually manages the sale process.
   Completely different from eBay where you throw your stuff in - over the
   wall,
   and you only hear from them if you manage to piss off their automated
   nanny programs.
   Many high-roller dealers move their excess trade-in inventory on BAT.
   Dave
   On 2020-02-14 7:47 a.m., Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
   > Larry,
   >
   > I sold my mom's `65 Buick just over a year ago on BaT. They were
   magnificent to work with. They charge a flat $99 to the seller whether
   it sells or not. The buyer pays a commission to them which is
   transparent to you.
   >
   > They will not accept just anything--you have to apply to sell your
   car there.  They will certainly accept anything interesting like your
   car, but the `83 Toyota Corolla won't cut it. You wrote the ad copy and
   they edit it, and build the auction for you. You get to check the draft
   and give final approval before it goes live. They also work with you to
   establish a realistic reserve. If you think your reserve should be
   objectively too high they will refuse it. In my case their analysis was
   spot on.
   >
   > My mom's car failed to meet reserve and ended in a no-sale. However
   BaT then gave me the contact info for the high bidder and we were able
   to come to an agreement (he paid the reserve price). BaT received
   nothing from this because the sale happened outside their auction, even
   though they facilitated the sale.
   >
   > Very gentlemanly people there.....
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 06:32, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> How is Bring a Trailer to work with? eBay better? Costs?
   >>
   >> I need to sell my T-Bird '83 no movement locally or from national
   add.
   >>
   >>
   >> Larry - Cleveland
   >>
   >>
   >>
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   Florida  904-373-1795  (Skype forwarded)
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