[DeTomaso] Techno question: stock rear brake shims
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sat Feb 1 12:22:51 EST 2020
Hey look at that! I am SO wrong!
I’ve never seen rear caliper shims so didn’t think they existed. But a simple glance at the parts book would have immediately shown I was wrong. I stared I assumed what I thought I knew was right—a fateful error!
https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill2a.html
See part #34.
Thanks Ron!
Mike
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> On Feb 1, 2020, at 09:03, FAITH MCCALL <rfmccall at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I think I have a pile of used front and rear caliper shims. And yes, they did come with shims on the rear calipers.
>
> Ron
>
>
>> On February 1, 2020 at 11:57 AM "R.J." <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The part number of the rear "non exsisting" spacer shim is 1003D for the
>> stock rear brakes and 1003E and 1003F for the GT5 brakes.
>>
>>> Am 31.01.2020 um 01:15 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Two things:
>>>
>>> 1). Front and rear caliper bolt spacing is different. You can't put a front anything on the rear.
>>>
>>> 2). Rear calipers don't have shims. :)
>>>
>>> Both front and rear have locking tabs which go immediately underneath the head of the mounting bolts, but they are not shims. They have tabs which are bent up to prevent bolt rotation. Front calipers also have shims between caliper and upright which spaces the caliper inboard by the thickness of the shim.
>>>
>>> The caliper locking tabs for the GT5 (which has different calipers with different bolt spacing for the different spindles/rear uprights) are very cheap. However the ones for the early cars are obscenely expensive for what they are.
>>>
>>> Look at Wilkinson's website for exploded drawings and associated parts descriptions with eye-watering prices for the locking tabs....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 15:12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Forum,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An Oklahoma Pantera owner bought a set of re-built brakes
>>>> from one of our vendors, who is gone until next week. The problem is
>>>> that the stock shims for the rear calipers were not shipped. The dumb
>>>> question is whether the front shims will fit the rear calipers. We do
>>>> have an extra set of front shims, but I do not think that they'll
>>>> fit. Anyone with actual knowledge of this bit of stock brake trivia??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>>
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Hey look at that! I am SO wrong!
I've never seen rear caliper shims so didn't think they existed. But a
simple glance at the parts book would have immediately shown I was
wrong. I stared I assumed what I thought I knew was right--a fateful
error!
[1]https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill2a.html
See part #34.
Thanks Ron!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 1, 2020, at 09:03, FAITH MCCALL <rfmccall at comcast.net> wrote:
I think I have a pile of used front and rear caliper shims. And yes,
they did come with shims on the rear calipers.
Ron
On February 1, 2020 at 11:57 AM "R.J." <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
The part number of the rear "non exsisting" spacer shim is 1003D for
the
stock rear brakes and 1003E and 1003F for the GT5 brakes.
Am 31.01.2020 um 01:15 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:
Chuck,
Two things:
1). Front and rear caliper bolt spacing is different. You can't put
a front anything on the rear.
2). Rear calipers don't have shims. :)
Both front and rear have locking tabs which go immediately
underneath the head of the mounting bolts, but they are not shims.
They have tabs which are bent up to prevent bolt rotation. Front
calipers also have shims between caliper and upright which spaces
the caliper inboard by the thickness of the shim.
The caliper locking tabs for the GT5 (which has different calipers
with different bolt spacing for the different spindles/rear
uprights) are very cheap. However the ones for the early cars are
obscenely expensive for what they are.
Look at Wilkinson's website for exploded drawings and associated
parts descriptions with eye-watering prices for the locking tabs....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2020, at 15:12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
Dear Forum,
An Oklahoma Pantera owner bought a set of re-built
brakes
from one of our vendors, who is gone until next week. The problem
is
that the stock shims for the rear calipers were not shipped. The
dumb
question is whether the front shims will fit the rear calipers.
We do
have an extra set of front shims, but I do not think that they'll
fit. Anyone with actual knowledge of this bit of stock brake
trivia??
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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