[DeTomaso] Remote Decklid Release
Björn Carlsson
bjocar01 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 10 03:37:36 EST 2020
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
> Lower right corner of what? No pic or link?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 22:21, Björn Carlsson <bjocar01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > See lower right corner. :-)
> > x2.png
> > /bjAP:rn, why keep things simple?A A
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:03 AM Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> > <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > A A A On Dec 9, 2020, at 19:04, Charles Engles
> > <[2]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> > A A Dear Mike,
> > A A A A A A A Ach du Lieber!A The very early Panteras had a
> > remote
> > A A mechanical rear decklid release??A I did not know that.A Does
> > it
> > A A resemble the front hood release system?A Pictures?
> > A A >>>Chuck,
> > A A It's been staring you in the face for years. Open your hymnal
> > to the
> > A A section on decklid and associated parts:
> > A A [1][3]https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
> > A A I have had extensive experience working with these things in
> > Stephane
> > A A Bergeron's car, #1256.A If you look in the registry there are
> > many
> > A A detailed photos I took of various elements of the system.
> > A
> > A [2][4]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPN
> > LC01256/
> > A A RTHPNLC01256.asp
> > A A The handle is the same as the trunk latch on an Alfa Romeo
> > Spyder. The
> > A A original Pantera handle didn't have a lock, but he replaced his
> > with an
> > A A Alfa version, and the only one he could find did have a lock
> > (no bad
> > A A thing perhaps).
> > A A But the system is fatally flawed. The handle is set into the
> > driver's
> > A A side B-pillar post. There is a long cable (same kind as used
> > for the
> > A A front trunk) which snakes behind the gas tank, then through the
> > A A wheelhouse into the fender wall, then back through the fender
> > well and
> > A A into the side of the latch (same kind as used for the front
> > trunk too).
> > A A But here is the huge gotcha. The front end of the cable is
> > secured to
> > A A the lever with a nut and bolt arrangement, like the front
> > trunk. If the
> > A A cable breaks or slips out of the lever, you need to remove the
> > lever to
> > A A fix it.
> > A A Ah, but the lever has studs, and is secured to the B-pillar
> > post with
> > A A two nuts.A They are completely inaccessible as they are
> > completely
> > A A blocked by the gas tank. So in order to reconnect the latch you
> > first
> > A A have to remove the gas tank.
> > A A But to remove the gas tank you first have to remove the engine
> > and
> > A A gearbox.
> > A A What's Step One of removing the engine and gearbox?
> > A A Open the decklid!
> > A A It's like Abbot and Costello'sA "Who's on first?" routine.
> > Eliminating
> > A A that whole system in favor of our tried and true push button
> > A A arrangement is literally the first major improvement to the
> > Pantera
> > A A that Ford instituted, I think.
> > A A As for Stephane's car, it was a real struggle to get the system
> > A A working. His old cable was completely screwed.A Where do you
> > find a
> > A A replacement cable that's ten feet long?A Bike shops have brake
> > cable,
> > A A but it's typically sold in typical bike lengths.
> > A A We finally found a place clear on the other side of Paris that
> > could
> > A A fabricate a cable to length. It took the better kart of a day
> > to drive
> > A A there and back. We also created a secondary emergency cable
> > that can be
> > A A accessed from outside the car, following the same philosophy
> > used for
> > A A the front trunk.
> > A A Cheers!
> > A A Mike
> > A A -----Original Message-----
> > A A From: DeTomaso
> > [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> > A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> > A A Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 8:43 PM
> > A A To: Mike & Elizabeth
> > A A Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Remote Decklid Release
> > A A Mike,
> > A A I recommend don't.
> > A A For a variety of reasons it's not a smart idea. The original
> > Panteras
> > A A came with such a system but they quickly ditched it once the
> > problems
> > A A started piling up, and only the first 275 or so cars had it.
> > A A You have enough problems to overcome at the moment.A Don't
> > create more
> > A A for yourself for no gain and potentially lots of downside.....
> > A A Mike (hey, you asked....)
> > A A Sent from my iPad
> > A A A On Dec 9, 2020, at 18:24, Mike & Elizabeth
> > <[7]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
> > A A A wrote:
> > A A A A I am planning to add a remote rear decklid release to
> > 6328 as part
> > A A A of
> > A A A the restoration.A Pinging the forum to see what others
> > have used
> > A A A and/or
> > A A A what you can recommend.
> > A A A Thanks
> > A A A Mike Thomas
> > A A A _______________________________________________
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> > A A 2.
> > [13]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01
> > 256/RTHPNLC01256.asp
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> >
> > BjAP:rn Carlsson
> > VACURstra Nygatan 4
> > SE 57771 Virserum, Sweden
> > Tel. +46 708 983430
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > 2. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> > 3. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
> > 4.
> http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01256/
> > 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> > 6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > 7. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
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> > 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> > 12. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
> > 13.
> http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01256/RTHPNLC01256.asp
> > 14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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Björn Carlsson
Västra Nygatan 4
SE 57771 Virserum, Sweden
Tel. +46 708 983430
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Me and list software are not best buddies.
Small pic attached.
Link for Google account holder:
[1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/uUYVgRkWe7jW2wZu5
/bjAP:rn, just another a minor drewaster...
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Drew <[2]mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
Lower right corner of what? No pic or link?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 22:21, BjAP:rn Carlsson <[3]bjocar01 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> i>>?A A See lower right corner. :-)
>A A x2.png
>A A /bjAP:rn, why keep things simple?A A
>
>A A On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:03 AM Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>A A <[1][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>A A A AA AA A On Dec 9, 2020, at 19:04, Charles Engles
>A A A <[2][5]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>A A A AA A Dear Mike,
>A A A AA AA AA AA AA AA A Ach du Lieber!AA The very early
Panteras had a
>A A A remote
>A A A AA A mechanical rear decklid release??AA I did not know
that.AA Does
>A A A it
>A A A AA A resemble the front hood release system?AA Pictures?
>A A A AA A >>>Chuck,
>A A A AA A It's been staring you in the face for years. Open
your hymnal
>A A A to the
>A A A AA A section on decklid and associated parts:
>A A A AA A
[1][3][6]https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
>A A A AA A I have had extensive experience working with these
things in
>A A A Stephane
>A A A AA A Bergeron's car, #1256.AA If you look in the registry
there are
>A A A many
>A A A AA A detailed photos I took of various elements of the
system.
>A A A A
>A A A A
[2][4][7]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHP
N
>A A A LC01256/
>A A A AA A RTHPNLC01256.asp
>A A A AA A The handle is the same as the trunk latch on an Alfa
Romeo
>A A A Spyder. The
>A A A AA A original Pantera handle didn't have a lock, but he
replaced his
>A A A with an
>A A A AA A Alfa version, and the only one he could find did have
a lock
>A A A (no bad
>A A A AA A thing perhaps).
>A A A AA A But the system is fatally flawed. The handle is set
into the
>A A A driver's
>A A A AA A side B-pillar post. There is a long cable (same kind
as used
>A A A for the
>A A A AA A front trunk) which snakes behind the gas tank, then
through the
>A A A AA A wheelhouse into the fender wall, then back through
the fender
>A A A well and
>A A A AA A into the side of the latch (same kind as used for the
front
>A A A trunk too).
>A A A AA A But here is the huge gotcha. The front end of the
cable is
>A A A secured to
>A A A AA A the lever with a nut and bolt arrangement, like the
front
>A A A trunk. If the
>A A A AA A cable breaks or slips out of the lever, you need to
remove the
>A A A lever to
>A A A AA A fix it.
>A A A AA A Ah, but the lever has studs, and is secured to the
B-pillar
>A A A post with
>A A A AA A two nuts.AA They are completely inaccessible as they
are
>A A A completely
>A A A AA A blocked by the gas tank. So in order to reconnect the
latch you
>A A A first
>A A A AA A have to remove the gas tank.
>A A A AA A But to remove the gas tank you first have to remove
the engine
>A A A and
>A A A AA A gearbox.
>A A A AA A What's Step One of removing the engine and gearbox?
>A A A AA A Open the decklid!
>A A A AA A It's like Abbot and Costello'sAA "Who's on first?"
routine.
>A A A Eliminating
>A A A AA A that whole system in favor of our tried and true push
button
>A A A AA A arrangement is literally the first major improvement
to the
>A A A Pantera
>A A A AA A that Ford instituted, I think.
>A A A AA A As for Stephane's car, it was a real struggle to get
the system
>A A A AA A working. His old cable was completely screwed.AA
Where do you
>A A A find a
>A A A AA A replacement cable that's ten feet long?AA Bike shops
have brake
>A A A cable,
>A A A AA A but it's typically sold in typical bike lengths.
>A A A AA A We finally found a place clear on the other side of
Paris that
>A A A could
>A A A AA A fabricate a cable to length. It took the better kart
of a day
>A A A to drive
>A A A AA A there and back. We also created a secondary emergency
cable
>A A A that can be
>A A A AA A accessed from outside the car, following the same
philosophy
>A A A used for
>A A A AA A the front trunk.
>A A A AA A Cheers!
>A A A AA A Mike
>A A A AA A -----Original Message-----
>A A A AA A From: DeTomaso
>A A A [mailto:[5][8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>A A A AA A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>A A A AA A Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 8:43 PM
>A A A AA A To: Mike & Elizabeth
>A A A AA A Cc: [6][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>A A A AA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Remote Decklid Release
>A A A AA A Mike,
>A A A AA A I recommend don't.
>A A A AA A For a variety of reasons it's not a smart idea. The
original
>A A A Panteras
>A A A AA A came with such a system but they quickly ditched it
once the
>A A A problems
>A A A AA A started piling up, and only the first 275 or so cars
had it.
>A A A AA A You have enough problems to overcome at the
moment.AA Don't
>A A A create more
>A A A AA A for yourself for no gain and potentially lots of
downside.....
>A A A AA A Mike (hey, you asked....)
>A A A AA A Sent from my iPad
>A A A AA AA A On Dec 9, 2020, at 18:24, Mike & Elizabeth
>A A A <[7][10]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
>A A A AA AA A wrote:
>A A A AA AA AA A I am planning to add a remote rear decklid
release to
>A A A 6328 as part
>A A A AA AA A of
>A A A AA AA AA the restoration.AA Pinging the forum to see
what others
>A A A have used
>A A A AA AA A and/or
>A A A AA AA AA what you can recommend.
>A A A AA AA AA Thanks
>A A A AA AA AA Mike Thomas
>A A A AA AA A _______________________________________________
>A A A AA AA A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
>A A A AA AA A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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>A A A AA A 2.
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A [13][16]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTH
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>A A BjAP:rn Carlsson
>A A VACURstra Nygatan 4
>A A SE 57771 Virserum, Sweden
>A A Tel. +46 708 983430
>
> References
>
>A A 1. mailto:[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>A A 2. mailto:[20]cengles at cox.net
>A A 3. [21]https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
>A A 4.
[22]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01
256/
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>A A 6. mailto:[24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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2. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
3. mailto:bjocar01 at gmail.com
4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
6. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
7. http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPN
8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
10. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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15. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
16. http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01
17. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
18. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
19. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
20. mailto:cengles at cox.net
21. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
22. http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLC01256/
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30. https://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/2016/ill27c.html
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