[DeTomaso] Charlie’s clutch

Fri Apr 10 20:12:06 EDT 2020

Hi Mike

I have a new Centerforce DF700000 clutch pressure plate and dual friction disc that I never used because I changed my mind and bought the fancy special one with CF steel flywheel to match it $$. I will sell it for $150USD plus shipping. I am in Canada, so that the shipping may be an issue. If you want it, I’ll try to get a shipping quote. I don’t have the plastic alignment tool. 

I’m very happy with the special clutch CF sells for our Panteras. It is smaller and lighter than the full size 11 inch Ford clutch but holds the same torque, so easier on the shifts and syncros. The DF700000 fits any Ford with the same 164 ring gear teeth and 10 splines as the Pantera. (A LOT of cars and trucks) My understanding was that there are no issues with clearance in the Pantera bellhousing and no special release bearing is required. YRMV

Barry

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Thomas,

That’s fascinating. We have always been told that a conventional 351C clutch won’t work in a Pantera due to the higher finger height which causes it to strike the inside of the bellhousing. But perhaps that’s not true for diaphragm clutches like this?

What did you use for your throwout bearing? Did you have to shim it forward because of the lower finger height?

The Centerforce website only gives a single application for this part number—Ford E-100 econoline Van. But the Summit website shows applications for virtually every Ford car and truck of the period. 

Thanks!

Mike

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> On Apr 10, 2020, at 03:30, Thomas Törnblom < <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> thomas at hax.se> wrote:

> 

> This is the one I’m  currently using with my Fidanza flywheel.

> 

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> $375 from Summit. 

> 

> Thomas

> 

>> 10 apr. 2020 kl. 09:28 skrev Thomas Törnblom < <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> thomas at hax.se>:

>> 

>> No, if you use the standard 351C Centerforce clutch instead of the Pantera specific one, which works fine, there is ino machining required. I’m currently using that.

>> 

>> I had a Pantera specific one and drilled the flywheel myself but as I had severe vibrations I suspected that that was the problem and replaced it with the standard 351C CF clutch, with no improvement.

>> Turned out that the balancing the machine shop had done was totally wrong and I used another crank and the problem is gone.

>> 

>> Thomas

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   Hi Mike

   I have a new Centerforce DF700000 clutch pressure plate and dual
   friction disc that I never used because I changed my mind and bought
   the fancy special one with CF steel flywheel to match it $$. I will
   sell it for $150USD plus shipping. I am in Canada, so that the shipping
   may be an issue. If you want it, I'll try to get a shipping quote. I
   don't have the plastic alignment tool.

   I'm very happy with the special clutch CF sells for our Panteras. It is
   smaller and lighter than the full size 11 inch Ford clutch but holds
   the same torque, so easier on the shifts and syncros. The DF700000 fits
   any Ford with the same 164 ring gear teeth and 10 splines as the
   Pantera. (A LOT of cars and trucks) My understanding was that there are
   no issues with clearance in the Pantera bellhousing and no special
   release bearing is required. YRMV

   Barry

   [1]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   Fri Apr 10 17:48:58 EDT 2020
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   Thomas,

   That's fascinating. We have always been told that a conventional 351C
   clutch won't work in a Pantera due to the higher finger height which
   causes it to strike the inside of the bellhousing. But perhaps that's
   not true for diaphragm clutches like this?

   What did you use for your throwout bearing? Did you have to shim it
   forward because of the lower finger height?

   The Centerforce website only gives a single application for this part
   number--Ford E-100 econoline Van. But the Summit website shows
   applications for virtually every Ford car and truck of the period.

   Thanks!

   Mike

   Sent from my iPad

   > On Apr 10, 2020, at 03:30, Thomas Toernblom <[8]thomas at hax.se>
   wrote:

   >

   > This is the one I'm  currently using with my Fidanza flywheel.

   >

   > <image0.jpeg>

   >

   >

   > $375 from Summit.

   >

   > Thomas

   >

   >> 10 apr. 2020 kl. 09:28 skrev Thomas Toernblom <[9]thomas at hax.se>:

   >>

   >> No, if you use the standard 351C Centerforce clutch instead of the
   Pantera specific one, which works fine, there is ino machining
   required. I'm currently using that.

   >>

   >> I had a Pantera specific one and drilled the flywheel myself but as
   I had severe vibrations I suspected that that was the problem and
   replaced it with the standard 351C CF clutch, with no improvement.

   >> Turned out that the balancing the machine shop had done was totally
   wrong and I used another crank and the problem is gone.

   >>

   >> Thomas

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