[DeTomaso] Late L engine screen wanted

Sat Oct 26 15:20:57 EDT 2019

Hahaha, in regard to the fast food analogy they all fall into a category of 'junk food' for me so you won't find me in any of them asking for their version of a 'hamburger'. Why do Americans call it a hamburger anyway, there's no pork in it? :)

Julian

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From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:51 AM
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>; List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Late L engine screen wanted

My technical mentor (who chooses to remain in lurker mode) just sent this to me:

Hey Mike,

Julian is absolutely correct. For fun ask him this:

It is historically correct that White Castle is the first fast food chain and McDonalds optimized the assembly process. Next time he is in Burger King have him ask for a Big Mac and see what he gets. :)

——-

Hahahah!

Mike

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On Oct 26, 2019, at 09:50, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Dzus fasteners are a quarter turn positive lock fastener invented by an Ukrainian William Dzus in the early 30's (apparently without any help from the Bidens). Other manufacturers simply use their own proprietary name for a Dzus fastener e.g. Camloc, Airlock etc. but they are all essentially Dzus fasteners.

Julian

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Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 8:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Late L engine screen wanted

All,

I have been most cheerfully corrected in my earlier assertion, and learned something in the process.

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha/fast_1camloc.html

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha/fast_1dzus.html

Dzus have the retaining spring underneath while Camloc have it on the body.  So I guess that means Pantera fasteners are Camloc and NOT Dzus, countering everything I had ever heard for the past 30 years.

Fascinating. I love that I’m always learning, frequently from my own mistakes, and am grateful to people who are willing to set me straight!

Mike

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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 14:25, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Dzus, named after the god of attachments!
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
> Uh...like I said. Dzus fasteners.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzus_fastener
>
> The 1971-72 cars used different panels, with sheet metal screws.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:39, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com<mailto:kszwab at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> What are the original fasteners called for a 73 Pantera ?
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> Geoff Peters in the UK is looking for an engine cover for his 1974 Pantera. Must be the later style secured with Dzus fasteners.
>>>
>>> Who has one he can sell to me on Geoff's behalf?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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   Hahaha, in regard to the fast food analogy they all fall into a
   category of 'junk food' for me so you won't find me in any of them
   asking for their version of a 'hamburger'. Why do Americans call it a
   hamburger anyway, there's no pork in it? :)

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:51 AM
   To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>; List
   DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Late L engine screen wanted

   My technical mentor (who chooses to remain in lurker mode) just sent
   this to me:
   Hey Mike,
   Julian is absolutely correct. For fun ask him this:
   It is historically correct that White Castle is the first fast food
   chain and McDonalds optimized the assembly process. Next time he is in
   Burger King have him ask for a Big Mac and see what he gets. :)
   -----
   Hahahah!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   On Oct 26, 2019, at 09:50, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   Dzus fasteners are a quarter turn positive lock fastener invented by an
   Ukrainian William Dzus in the early 30's (apparently without any help
   from the Bidens). Other manufacturers simply use their own proprietary
   name for a Dzus fastener e.g. Camloc, Airlock etc. but they are all
   essentially Dzus fasteners.
   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 8:52 AM
   To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[4]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Late L engine screen wanted

   All,
   I have been most cheerfully corrected in my earlier assertion, and
   learned something in the process.
   [6]https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha
   /fast_1camloc.html
   [7]https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha
   /fast_1dzus.html
   Dzus have the retaining spring underneath while Camloc have it on the
   body.  So I guess that means Pantera fasteners are Camloc and NOT Dzus,
   countering everything I had ever heard for the past 30 years.
   Fascinating. I love that I'm always learning, frequently from my own
   mistakes, and am grateful to people who are willing to set me straight!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Oct 25, 2019, at 14:25, The DeTomaso Registry Guy
   <[8]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Dzus, named after the god of attachments!
   >
   >
   > Chuck
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Uh...like I said. Dzus fasteners.
   >
   > [9]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzus_fastener
   >
   > The 1971-72 cars used different panels, with sheet metal screws.
   >
   > Cheers!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:39, Konrad Szwab <[10]kszwab at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >>
   >> What are the original fasteners called for a 73 Pantera ?
   >>
   >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >>> Guys,
   >>>
   >>> Geoff Peters in the UK is looking for an engine cover for his 1974
   Pantera. Must be the later style secured with Dzus fasteners.
   >>>
   >>> Who has one he can sell to me on Geoff's behalf?
   >>>
   >>> Mike
   >>>
   >>> Sent from my iPad
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   >>>
   >>>
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References

   1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   6. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha/fast_1camloc.html
   7. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/ha/fast_1dzus.html
   8. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzus_fastener
  10. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso