[DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Thu Oct 24 11:12:11 EDT 2019
Whichever way works best.
>From Del City Wire, some options:
https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_14265.h_792476
https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_10380
https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg
https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals/p_804069.h_804070
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
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On Oct 24, 2019, 07:37, at 07:37, steve at snclocks.com wrote:
>The thing I love most about individual decisions is we each get to live
>with
>what we choose. I sure am glad batteries are put together properly and
>all
>that lead doesn't just vibrate away!
>
>But, honestly - The hardness of pure lead is 1.5 on the Mohs scale
>(between
>talc and gypsum: it can be scratched by the fingernail), and its
>tensile
>strength is only 2000 psi. ... Lead anneals itself (recrystallizes) at
>room
>temperature, so cold work does not harden it.
>
>Hmmm - tensile of 2,000 psi - wow. Make no mistake - I crimp
>connections
>before I solder them - heck fire - how am I supposed to keep that
>little
>metal thingie on the wire if I don't crimp it in some way. And, if the
>solder does in fact tin the surface of the wire - wow - tough to break
>that
>grip. I've never seen soldered connections loosen with time - but I've
>also
>never seen a unicorn. Doesn't mean there aren't unicorns out there...
>
>The main thing is to get your cars out and drive the piss out of them.
>
>Oh - could someone teach factories how to properly solder and/or
>crimp??? I
>won't even begin to go there on the really crap aftermarket work I see
>on
>electrical systems - cold solder joints anyone?
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
>David
>Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:27 AM
>To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
>
>The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp. Stop and think about it
>for a
>second.
>If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the
>cable
>in?
>Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.
>Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the connection.
>Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really
>unnecessary.
>Done properly crimping is the way to go.
>David Finley 3659
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends. I
>think
>> they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them. Any reason
>to
>> not solder onto the cables?
>> Thanks, Inline image
>> Ken
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Whichever way works best.
From Del City Wire, some options:
[1]https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_1426
5.h_792476
[2]https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_1
0380
[3]https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg
[4]https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals
/p_804069.h_804070
AsaA Jay
AsaA JayA Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
On Oct 24, 2019, at 07:37, [5]steve at snclocks.com wrote:
The thing I love most about individual decisions is we each get to live with
what we choose. I sure am glad batteries are put together properly and all
that lead doesn't just vibrate away!
But, honestly - The hardness of pure lead is 1.5 on the Mohs scale (between
talc and gypsum: it can be scratched by the fingernail), and its tensile
strength is only 2000 psi. ... Lead anneals itself (recrystallizes) at room
temperature, so cold work does not harden it.
Hmmm - tensile of 2,000 psi - wow. Make no mistake - I crimp connections
before I solder them - heck fire - how am I supposed to keep that little
metal thingie on the wire if I don't crimp it in some way. And, if the
solder does in fact tin the surface of the wire - wow - tough to break that
grip. I've never seen soldered connections loosen with time - but I've also
never seen a unicorn. Doesn't mean there aren't unicorns out there...
The main thing is to get your cars out and drive the piss out of them.
Oh - could someone teach factories how to properly solder and/or crimp??? I
won't even begin to go there on the really crap aftermarket work I see on
electrical systems - cold solder joints anyone?
Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:27 AM
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp. Stop and think about it for a
second.
If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the cable
in?
Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.
Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the connection.
Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really unnecessary.
Done properly crimping is the way to go.
David Finley 3659
I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends. I
think
they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them. Any reason to
not solder onto the cables?
Thanks, Inline image
Ken
<P1020361.JPG>
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References
1. https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_14265.h_792476
2. https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_10380
3. https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg
4. https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals/p_804069.h_804070
5. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
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